In this episode of HALO Talks, Pete Moore sits down with Tony Saxby, founder of W.O.L.F Fitness ("Workout Live Fierce") to explore his lifelong path in the HALO space. (Health, Active Lifestyle, Outdoors.) From humble beginnings as a teenage personal trainer at a local YMCA, through years of law enforcement, to building and scaling a unique community-centered gym franchise (that has attracted the attention of Dave Bautista), Saxby shares his philosophy for creating spaces that go far beyond four walls and equipment.

Discover how W.O.L.F differentiates itself from big-box competitors like Planet Fitness and Crunch by prioritizing community, elevated amenities, and grassroots engagement, and why Tony believes finding the right franchise partners is the key to sustainable success. Whether you're interested in entrepreneurship, fitness, or learning what it takes to build a genuine community, this episode promises valuable insights from the frontlines of gym innovation.

When Saxby opines on the truth about some franchise ownership situations, he pulls no punches. "One, they're often hyper-unaffordable for the regular person, you need like an investment group. Two, they're not really a gym. Their job is marketing. Their job is reselling you equipment every three to five years at full market while they're getting it for a lot less. That was something that we would never sign, my wife and I."

Key themes discussed

• Building community-centric gyms over traditional gym models
• Challenges and lessons in franchising and selective growth
• Differentiating W.O.L.F gyms from competitors on amenities and size
• Importance of grassroots, local marketing and B2B partnerships
• Flexible pricing structure based on regional real estate
• Franchisee empowerment and fit for the W.O.L.F brand
• Upgrading tech and CRM systems for scaling operations

A Few Key Takeaways

1.Community First, Gym Second: Tony emphasized that the W.O.L.F franchise is focused on building genuine community connections before building gyms. They prioritize engaging in grassroots efforts, fostering relationships with local businesses, and hosting regular open houses to embed themselves in neighborhoods. 14:09

2. Unique Franchise Approach and Accessibility: Unlike many fitness franchises, W.O.L.F aims for affordability and accessibility for regular individuals, not just large investment groups. Saxby's goal is to find "100 cool people" to run gyms defined by core values like honor, integrity, community, and commitment, rather than simply expanding numbers. 04:16

3. Selective Franchise Growth: Tony also talked about the hard lessons learned from early franchise expansion, admitting that saying yes to everyone led to some early failures. The brand has since become highly selective, investing in vetting and strong systems to ensure only the right people join. 05:19

4. Differentiation in the Market: W.O.L.F distinguishes itself from brands like Planet Fitness and Crunch not by undercutting prices, but by capping memberships for a better member experience, offering premium amenities (like red light therapy, cold plunge, and soon hyperbaric chambers), and (wisely!) resisting the race to the bottom on pricing.

5. Adaptability and Member Loyalty: The story came full circle with Saxby sharing examples of strong member loyalty, such as community support during COVID and gratitude over continual gym improvements. These reinforce W.O.L.F's commitment to being more than just a gym. It's very much a valued piece of members' daily lives. 21:54

Resources:

• Tony Saxby: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-saxby-b120982a3
• W.O.L.F. Fitness: https://www.wolfgyms.com
• Integrity Square: https://www.integritysq.com
• Prospect Wizard: https://www.theprospectwizard.com
• Promotion Vault: https://www.promotionvault.com
• HigherDose: https://www.higherdose.com

In this episode of HALO Talks, host Pete Moore welcomes Matt Fornaro, a seasoned attorney with over 20 years of experience, now dedicated to supporting small businesses, entrepreneurs, and startups. Having left the world of "big law," Matt brings invaluable insights into the legal challenges that new and growing companies face, everything from intellectual property and commercial leases, to the need for proper contracts and the pitfalls of relying solely on digital tools like AI for legal advice.

Listen now as Pete and Matt talk about building a solid legal foundation for your business, why cutting corners on agreements can cost you, and practical tips for working with franchisors, negotiating leases, and planning successful business exits.

If you're an entrepreneur or looking to start a business, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you avoid common legal mistakes and set your venture up for long-term success.

On why every entrepreneur should prioritize IP, Fernaro states, "If they're developing a brand or a product, they need to protect it as soon as possible because otherwise you put it out there, someone's going to take it and someone's going to appropriate it. So you always have to put into the budgetary process intellectual property protection, whether you're inventing something and you need a patent or you're coming up with an idea, a logo, a name, a website, and you need to trademark it."

Key themes discussed

• Transition from big law to supporting entrepreneurs
• Flat fee vs. equity-based legal compensation
• Local startup ecosystem and incubators in Florida
• Intellectual property importance and protection strategies
• Operating agreements and legal document pitfalls
• AI in legal practice and client document reviews
• Franchise and commercial lease exit strategies

A Few Key Takeaways

1.The Importance of Tailored Legal Support for Entrepreneurs: Matt emphasized that startups and small businesses are often underserved by large law firms, which tend to focus on big corporations. He launched his own firm to specifically address the unique legal needs of entrepreneurs, offering more accessible and personalized support. 00:53.

2. Avoid Cutting Corners on Legal Agreements: Many entrepreneurs rely on generic or templated agreements pulled from the internet, which often fail to address their specific business structure or jurisdiction. Matt warns this is a critical area where cutting corners can result in significant problems down the line and stresses the need for an attorney-drafted document tailored to the business's and location's exact needs. 07:14.

3. Intellectual Property Should Be Prioritized Early: Fornaro consistently advises clients to prioritize protecting their intellectual property—whether that's patents, trademarks, or brand assets—as early as possible. Failure to do so risks others copying or commandeering unprotected ideas, trademarks, or products. 04:03.

4. AI is a Tool. It's Not a Replacement for Legal Experience: While Matt welcomes the use of AI for drafting and research, he emphasizes that ultimate legal judgment should come from a qualified attorney. AI-generated documents can be helpful for organizing ideas but often lack crucial nuance and legal specificity, especially across different jurisdictions. 11:08.

5. Planning for Exists in Franchising & Leasing: Negotiating franchise and commercial lease agreements up front is vital, particularly regarding succession or assignment clauses. Many entrepreneurs overlook assignment and exit provisions, leading to complications when they want to sell or transfer the business, sometimes finding themselves still liable for leases after selling. Proper legal guidance from the beginning can make future exits much smoother. 15:59.

Resources:

• Matthew Fornaro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewfornaro/
• Fornaro Legal: https://fornarolegal.com/
• Integrity Square: https://www.integritysq.com
• Prospect Wizard: https://www.theprospectwizard.com
• Promotion Vault: https://www.promotionvault.com
• HigherDose: https://www.higherdose.com

Welcome to HALO Talks NYC! In this episode, host Pete Moore sits down with Ashok Gupta, Co-Founder and CEO of TheraNow, and talks about the future of telehealth and its impact on physical therapy. From humble beginnings and unique inspirations to the challenges of building a specialized tech-enabled service, Gupta discusses launching and scaling TheraNow alongside his wife and Co-Founder.

Together, they discuss bridging gaps in healthcare access with the power of virtual care, how technology is transforming patient assessment, and the innovative solutions they've brought to large hospital systems across the country. Whether you're curious about entrepreneurship in health tech, the state of remote physical therapy, or how to foster seamless patient care in a changing landscape, this episode is packed with invaluable insights and inspiration.

On the reality of tech in healthcare Gupta states, "I do not try to disguise ourselves as a tech company, when at the end of the day, what we offer is a service which is our physical therapists, our clinicians, speech therapists, occupational therapists are providing care to the patient. That is what we are actually billing and getting them paid for."

Key themes discussed

• Telehealth physical therapy origins and its necessity
• Access to care and healthcare gaps
• Technology and computer vision in remote PT
• Partnership with hospitals and staffing solutions
• Therapist onboarding, credentialing innovations
• Quality of care and regulatory reimbursement

A Few Key Takeaways

1. Telehealth Physical Therapy Innovation: Ashok shared how TheraNow was founded to address the issue of greater access to physical therapy care, especially for those living far from clinics. By leveraging telehealth and building a proprietary technology platform, TheraNow can extend quality care remotely, removing barriers tied to geography and physical clinic capacity. 00:41

2. Advanced Use of Computer Vision: Rather than relying on hardware sensors, TheraNow uses computer vision and AI via a regular webcam to assess patient movements, allowing therapists to evaluate functional motion and prescribe therapy without requiring specialized equipment. This improves accessibility and simplicity for patients. 09:25

3. Flexible and Scalable Therapist Network: TheraNow has configured its network of 400+ therapists to flexibly meet state-by-state requirements, employing both W2 and 1099 models. The business uses technology not only in care delivery but also to vastly speed up hiring and onboarding: what once took 14 days is now accomplished in 12 hours thanks to an asynchronous software platform. 12:18

4. Consistency and Quality of Care: Patients matched with a TheraNow therapist can expect to continue with the same clinician throughout their episode of care, which addresses a common pitfall in traditional physical therapy settings. The company exclusively employs highly trained therapists (Doctor or Masters of Physical Therapy) to maintain quality, and internal clinical data shows outcomes are as good as, or better than, in-person care. 18:28.

5. Bootstrap Success Story and Hospital Focus: TheraNow was started by Ashok and his wife (also a Doctor of Physical Therapy) and was largely bootstrapped or funded by family and friends. The company grew to profitability and now serves hospitals as its primary customers, filling a crucial gap for large systems with more patients than physical locations or clinicians can handle. 20:36

Resources:

• Ashok Gupta: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-ashok-gupta-dpt-2b5a7023
• Theranow: https://theranow.com
• Integrity Square: https://www.integritysq.com
• Prospect Wizard: https://www.theprospectwizard.com
• Promotion Vault: https://www.promotionvault.com
• HigherDose: https://www.higherdose.com