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Gone Phishing

Gone Phishing

By: Connor Swalm
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Twice a week, we'll explore a new topic or thought and unpack the vulnerabilities surrounding humans and social engineering to help you and your business become more resistant to cybercrime. New episodes every Monday & WednesdayCopyright 2025 Gone Phishing Politics & Government
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  • Why traditional cyber insurance models are failing (with Will Brooks)
    Jul 29 2024

    On today's episode, Connor Swalm (CEO - Phin Security) does a deep dive into the complexities and challenges of the cyber insurance market with Will Brooks (Channel Chief - FifthWall).

    They discuss why the current model of cyber insurance is struggling to keep up with the rapid evolution of technology and share personal anecdotes about the behind-the-scenes hurdles.

    They also explore potential solutions for refining cyber insurance policies and the role of MSPs in helping businesses remain compliant and secure.

    Takeaways

    1. Cyber insurance is continuously evolving to keep up with technological advancements, but it's currently lagging behind due to outdated risk models.

    2. The importance of adapting underwriting processes to accommodate more dynamic and real-time risk assessment in cybersecurity.

    3. Potential conflicts of interest when cyber insurance carriers also offer cybersecurity services.

    4. The opportunity for MSPs to provide continuous security management to help businesses maintain compliance with cyber insurance policies.

    Connect with Will on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wi1bo/

    Website: http://fifthwallsolutions.com/msp

    Connect with Connor Swalm on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/connor-swalm/

    Phin Securities Website: phinsec.io/

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    19 mins
  • Leveraging AI in cybersecurity for small businesses (with Reg Harnish)
    Jul 24 2024

    On today's episode, Connor Swalm (CEO - Phin Security) does a deep dive into the world of AI in cybersecurity, featuring Reg Harnish (CEO and Founder of Orbital Fire).

    They explore the complexities and practical implications of incorporating AI into cybersecurity strategies for small businesses. They discuss the potentials, challenges, and current uses of AI, as well as how small businesses can develop AI policies.

    They provide insights into the adversarial and defensive uses of AI, and debate the true value and risks AI brings into the cybersecurity realm.

    Takeaways

    - The current state of AI adoption in small businesses, and how Orbital Fire approaches AI policies.

    - The potential for AI to make phishing attempts cheaper and more frequent, rather than improving their quality.

    - The challenges of integrating AI into trust-based security systems, considering public skepticism towards AI.

    - The ingenuity behind traditional phishing scams and how they might evolve or remain the same due to AI intervention.

    Connect with Reg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rharnish/

    Website: https://orbitalfire.com/

    Email: partners@orbitalfire.com or reg@orbitalfire.com

    Connect with Connor Swalm on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/connor-swalm/

    Phin Securities Website: phinsec.io/

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    18 mins
  • The future of AI in customer interactions and marketing (with Bobby Jacobs)
    Jul 22 2024

    On today's episode, Connor Swalm (CEO - Phin Security) dives into the future of AI in customer interactions and marketing.

    Joined by Bobby Jacobs (Head of Growth - Thread), they discuss how AI is transforming the way we connect with customers and how marketers can effectively utilize AI without sacrificing the quality of customer experiences.

    Takeaways:

    - AI can help meet customers where they are, but businesses must understand their customer's preferred platforms.

    - Radical transparency in customer communications is essential for building trust.

    - AI should not fully replace human interactions but can assist in generating insights and automating minor tasks.

    - Balancing automation and personalized service is crucial for maintaining high-quality customer experiences.

    Connect with Bobby on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbyjacobs/

    Website: getthread.com/

    Connect with Connor Swalm on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/connor-swalm/

    Phin Securities Website: phinsec.io/

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    19 mins
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