Episodes

  • Face Equality Week: Advocating for Authentic Representation in Media with Charlene Pell

    Face Equality Week: Advocating for Authentic Representation in Media with Charlene Pell
    May 13 2025
    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel sits down with Charlene Pell, a burn survivor and the founder of Facing Forward, a nonprofit dedicated to advocating for individuals with visible differences. ✨ Charlene shares her journey, from surviving a burn injury to advocating for face equality.Rachel and Charlene also dive into Face Equality Week, this year’s theme, “My Face is a Masterpiece,” and why shifting the perception of beauty and identity is so important. 🫶 They discuss the representation of survivors in the media, the challenges of living with a visible difference, and the importance of advocacy. This episode celebrates resilience and the beauty of every survivor! ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using hashtag #GirlsWithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors! #BurnSurvivor #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories #FaceEqualityWeek #IFEW #FEW Meet Our Guest Award-winning author, Charlene Pell is the founder and executive director of Facing Forward, a 501©3 nonprofit organization dedicated to helping individuals with congenital or acquired facial or physical differences contend with staring, improve control of social interactions, and communicate confidently. Thirty years ago, Pell survived a catastrophic plane crash that burned 64 percent of her body, severely injuring her face and hands. She shares her compelling story of physically and emotionally surviving, recovering, and resurrecting her identity in her new book, In This Altered Body: A Survivor’s Story of Resilience and Love.As a result of her disfigurement and the lack of psychosocial resources available to her during her recovery, Pell researched and created programs and resources to help herself and others adjust to their changed appearance and circumstances. Since 1998, she’s shared her insights internationally as a keynote speaker at conferences for burn survivors and healthcare professionals. She created a nationwide program titled “What to Do When People Stare: A Workshop to Teach Individuals with Disfiguring Conditions to Contend with Staring and Improve Control of Social Interactions.” Her work has been published in Skin, Psychology Today, the American Burn Association’s Journal of Burn Care & Research, and other periodicals.Before her accident, Pell was vice president of communications for one of the most prominent design centers in the United States, the Design Center of the Americas. She managed and administered its marketing strategy and created extensive public relations programs in cooperation with Architectural Digest, House Beautiful, Interior Design, and many other publications. Pell has a master’s in communication studies from the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. She lives in Greensboro, North Carolina, with her husband. Links Purchase and read Charlene’s book “In This Altered Body: A Survivor’s Story of Resilience and Love:” https://www.amazon.com/This-Altered-Body-Survivors-Resilience-ebook/dp/B0CVF7X9JTLearn more about Face Equality Week: https://faceequalityinternational.org/about-fei/international-face-equality-week/Download the “Visible Difference & Disfigurement in the Arts” position paper: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/visible-difference-disfigurement-in-the-arts Sign the petition ‘Tell Hollywood Visible Difference Doesn’t Equal Evil!’ here: https://www.change.org/p/tell-hollywood-visible-difference-doesn-t-equal-evilDownload the 2024 State of the Survivor Report: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/2024-state-of-the-survivor-report Learn more about Phoenix World Burn Congress 2025: https://events.phoenix-society.org/event/PWBC2025/summary Learn more about the “I Am Not Your Villain” campaign: https://www.changingfaces.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-us/i-am-not-your-villian/ Contact Charlene: charlene@facingforwardinc.orgRead Charlene’s “Hidden From View: Women With Facial Differences in the Media” here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/disability-is-diversity/202303/hidden-from-view-women-with-facial-differences-in-the-media Learn more about Facing Forward: https://facingforwardinc.org/ Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by our new Phoenix Partner, Kerecis! From a small town in northwest Iceland, Kerecis develops, manufactures, and sells patented fish-skin soft tissue regeneration products. Kerecis GraftGuide is their intact fish-skin especially developed for the management of burn wounds.Kerecis fish-skin grafts contain fat, protein, elastin, glycans and other natural skin elements and are supplied in multiple shapes, variants and sizes. Learn more about Kerecis by checking out their website www.kerecis.com or reach out to info@kerecis.com if you are interested in using our products.Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.
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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • From Violence to Resilience: Davina’s Journey of Strength & Purpose

    From Violence to Resilience: Davina’s Journey of Strength & Purpose
    May 5 2025

    Trigger warning: In this episode of Girls with Grafts, we have an important and heartfelt discussion about domestic violence, including personal experiences and the journey to healing. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know needs support, please reach out to the National Domestic Violence Hotline by visiting www.thehotline.org, calling 800-799-7233, or texting BEGIN to 88788.

    In this deeply moving episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel and Amber sit down with Davina Licon, a survivor of an acid attack. With vulnerability and courage, Davina shares the story of her attack and the emotional and physical aftermath that has followed. 💛

    Through it all, she has found power in resilience and strength in physical activity. As a bodybuilder, she shares how fitness has impacted her journey and offers empowering tips for other survivors looking to reclaim their strength. 💪 Davina also opens up about her journey with faith and believing everything happens for a greater purpose.

    This episode is a raw and inspiring testament to the power of burn survivors.

    ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using hashtag #GirlsWithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!

    #BurnSurvivor #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories #Survivor #Strength

    Meet Our Guest

    Davina Licon is an acid attack survivor as well as a bodybuilder. Being a burn survivor Davina aims to raise awareness of acid attacks and domestic violence by shedding light for survivors. She wants people to understand that acid attacks and domestic violence are more common than we think and it can happen to anyone. Along with being a bodybuilder she hopes to inspire and motivate others to become a better, healthier version of themselves. If she can do it with more than 30% burns anyone can. There is no excuse.

    Links
    • Visit the National Domestic Violence Hotline: https://www.thehotline.org.
    • Visit the National Resource Center on Domestic Violence: https://nrcdv.org.
    • Join Phoenix Society’s Virtual Support Group: https://www.phoenix-society.org/what-we-do/virtual-support-group.
    • Explore Phoenix Society’s support services: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/tools-for-burn-survivors-and-caregivers.
    • Learn more about your legal rights after a burn injury: https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/legal-action-do-i-have-a-case.
    • Learn more about OneLove: https://www.joinonelove.org.

    Podcast Sponsor

    Today’s podcast is powered by the Donaldson Foundation! Led by a board comprised of employee volunteers, the mission of the Donaldson Foundation is to positively impact our communities by supporting education. We’re honored to have the Donaldson Foundation as a long-standing Phoenix Society Partner.


    Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

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    52 mins
  • Celebrating National Volunteer Week: Jeanette Johnson’s Journey of Healing and Helping

    Celebrating National Volunteer Week: Jeanette Johnson’s Journey of Healing and Helping
    Apr 22 2025

    In honor of National Volunteer Week, we're joined by Jeanette Johnson - burn survivor, Phoenix Society volunteer, and a voice of hope and healing. 🤝 In this heartfelt episode, Jeanette shares her journey of recovery over the past five years and how finding connection through Phoenix Society's Virtual Support Group changed everything.

    She opens up about the friendships she's formed, including with our co-host Ambe and the community that has grown from a virtual space into a true support system. ✨ Jeanette also shares her experience as a Phoenix SOAR Peer Supporter, including her very first in-person visit just last week.

    We dive into what it means to build community in a virtual world, the importance of getting connected early in recovery, and how volunteers like Jeanette are making a lasting impact. A heartfelt thank you to Jeanette for giving back as a volunteer - your compassion, time, and support are helping others feel seen, heard, and never alone on their healing journeys! 💛

    ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using hashtag #GirlsWithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!

    #BurnSurvivor #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories #NationalVolunteerWeek #NVW #Volunteer #PhoenixSOAR #PeerSupport

    Meet Our Guest

    Jeanette Johnson's journey as a burn survivor and her dedication to peer support have made her an integral part of the Phoenix Society community. Jeanette's story began on June 6, 2020, when she was burned in a smoldering firepit while on vacation in Oklahoma during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. Her experience in the Burn ICU during such an isolating time helped her realize the value of peer support—such as a smile, a listening ear, or a shared story.

    Motivated by her healing journey, Jeanette has been an active member of Phoenix Society's Virtual Support Group for over four years. This community became a lifeline for her, offering not only support but also lifelong friendships. Over time, she has expanded her involvement, becoming a Phoenix SOAR Peer Supporter, a CLIMB instructor, an advocate and speaker for mental health, and a support group leader. She strives to help others know they can rise and thrive after a burn injury.

    Links
    • Learn more about Phoenix SOAR: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-soar
    • Request a peer support visit: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/peer-support-request
    • Learn more about the CLIMB study: https://rally.massgeneralbrigham.org/study/climb
    • Sign up to participate in CLIMB: https://redcap.partners.org/redcap/surveys/?s=W3LKWEAPNTPAM7RW
    • Sign up for Phoenix Society’s Virtual Support Group: https://www.phoenix-society.org/what-we-do/virtual-support-group
    • Join Phoenix Society’s Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/phoenixsocietypeersupport
    • Explore our Burn Community Calendar: https://www.phoenix-society.org/community-calendar
    • Learn more and register for Phoenix World Burn Congress (WBC): https://events.phoenix-society.org/event/PWBC2025/summary
    • Learn more about the Florida bill and AFCI requirements by emailing natasha@phoenix-society.org.

    Podcast Sponsor

    Today’s podcast is powered by the Pritzker Hageman Law Firm! The Pritzker Hageman burn injury legal team helps burn survivors and their loved ones pursue compensation and justice throughout the United States. Learn more at: LegalJourney.guide.

    Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

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    58 mins
  • Powering Up: Lithium-Ion Battery Safety with Brian O’Connor, P.E.

    Powering Up: Lithium-Ion Battery Safety with Brian O’Connor, P.E.
    Apr 15 2025

    In our latest episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel sits down with Brian O’Connor, a Senior Engineer in the Technical Services department at the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), to discuss lithium-ion batteries. 🔋

    From powering our everyday devices like our cell phones, laptops, e-bikes, and more, lithium-ion batteries are everywhere. ⚠️ But do you know the warning signs of battery fires? Or how to stay safe when using them? Brian shares expert insights into what lithium-ion batteries are, where they’re used, and most importantly, how to protect yourself and others from potential hazards.

    Listen now to power up your knowledge and stay safe!

    ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using hashtag #GirlsWithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!

    #FireSafety #BatterySafety #FireProtection #LithiumIonBatteries #BurnSurvivor #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast

    Meet Our Guest

    Brian O’Connor is a Senior Engineer in the Technical Services department at the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) and a Past President of the New England Chapter of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers. A licensed professional engineer in Texas and Massachusetts, Brian holds a Bachelor's degree in Mechanical Engineering from Rowan University and a Master’s degree in Fire Protection Engineering from the University of Maryland. His expertise spans batteries, water-based fire protection systems, healthcare facilities, and fire extinguishers, with a focus on advancing fire safety through technical guidance and industry leadership.


    Links
    • Learn more about lithium-ion batteries and how to stay safe: https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/home-fire-safety/lithium-ion-batteries
    • Learn more about electric vehicle safety: https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/electrical/electric-vehicles
    • Explore NFPA’s training opportunities: https://www.nfpa.org/for-professionals/training-for-me/NFPA-Training
    • Explore NFPA’s list of codes and standards: https://www.nfpa.org/for-professionals/codes-and-standards/list-of-codes-and-standards

    Podcast Sponsor

    Today’s podcast is powered by the National Fire Protection Association! NFPA is a nonprofit that seeks to save lives and reduce loss with information, knowledge, & passion. Learn more about fire safety and explore their educational resources by visiting www.nfpa.org.

    Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

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    55 mins
  • Burnaversaries, Reality TV, and the Story Behind Girls with Grafts

    Burnaversaries, Reality TV, and the Story Behind Girls with Grafts
    Apr 1 2025

    In this special episode of Girls with Grafts, hosts Amber Wilcox and Rachel Kudlak sit down for a light-hearted conversation! 💛 They share their personal burn survivor stories and the creation of Girl with Grafts. With their burnaversaries happening this week, they reflect on how far they’ve come and how they are celebrating—Rachel with a home-cooked meal today and Amber with an Easter Egg Hunt fundraiser in her local community later this month. 🐣

    But it’s not all serious talk! The duo also catch up on their shared love of reality TV, including a deep dive into Traitors and what other binge-worthy shows have been keeping them entertained.

    Join us for an episode filled with resilience, laughter, and a little reality TV obsession—because healing isn’t just about recovery, it’s about embracing joy, connection, and all of life’s moments. ✨

    ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using hashtag #GirlsWithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!

    #BurnSurvivor #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories #Burnaversary

    Meet Our Guests

    Amber Wilcox is a burn survivor, yoga instructor, and marketing professional from Ormond Beach, Florida. After her kitchen accident in 2020, Amber faced burns on 20% of her body from a hot caramel spill. After two skin graft surgeries from Orlando Regional Burn Center, Amber experienced hypertrophic scarring and underwent a series of laser burn surgeries at Tampa General Hospital. As the RevOps Strategist for Impulse Creative, Amber helps drive the company's growth by operationalizing the experience throughout the customer lifecycle; from prospect to delight. When not marketing, Amber enjoys volunteering for Phoenix Society as a Phoenix SOAR Peer Supporter, teaching yoga for Kula for Karma supporting youth in Florida detention centers, or providing free yoga for peers on her website, yogaamber.com.

    Rachel Kudlak is a burn survivor and marketing professional residing in Charleston, South Carolina. As the Marketing Lead, Rachel manages and leads Phoenix Society’s marketing and digital strategies. She develops online marketing tactics, creates dynamic content, and maintains consistent engagement across online platforms. Before joining Phoenix Society’s team, Rachel served as the Marketing and Communications Phoenix Fellow and worked in the SEO/ORM industry. When not working, Rachel enjoys going on walks with her dog Remy, trying a new recipe, or binge-watching reality tv.

    Links
    • Watch our “Meet the Girls Behind Girls with Grafts:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkZFJeQtVq0
    • Learn more about Phoenix SOAR (Survivors Offering Assistance in Recovery): https://resources.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-soar
    • Watch our podcast episode with J.R., titled “Learning to Live with Intent with Burn Survivor, Actor, and Author J.R. Martinez:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqO0TbOePRo
    • Have feedback on the show? Want to recommend guests or topics? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org!
    • Read “The ‘Burnaversary’ Effect: The Emotional Impact of Anniversaries:” https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/the-burnaversary-effect
    • Read “What does your burnaversary mean to you?:” https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/burnaversary-stories
    • Learn more about ways other survivors celebrate their burnaversary: https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/ways-to-celebrate-or-honor-your-trauma-anniversary


    Podcast Sponsor

    Today’s podcast is powered by Summit Fire & Security! Summit Fire & Security is your trusted partner for all your fire protection and life safety needs. From fire extinguishers and alarms to security systems, suppression solutions, and special hazard protection, Summit Fire & Security supports you at every stage—from design and installation to ongoing maintenance and inspections. Learn more by visiting www.summitfiresecurity.com.

    Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

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    50 mins
  • Empowering Confidence Through Hair Restoration with Lee Hoff & Morgan Moore

    Empowering Confidence Through Hair Restoration with Lee Hoff & Morgan Moore
    Mar 18 2025

    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, we sit down with Lee Hoff and Morgan Moore, the dynamic duo behind Morgan & Moore Non-Surgical Hair Replacement and Inclusive Crowns, to discuss their mission to provide hope, healing, and holistic support through cranial prostheses and hair loss solutions. 💛 Lee and Morgan share the heartfelt inspiration behind their business and nonprofit, their journey in the world of hair restoration, and what makes a cranial prosthesis different from a standard wig.

    We also explore the emotional healing and confidence their clients experience through personalized hair solutions, as well as their passionate advocacy for insurance coverage of cranial prostheses. 💇‍♀️ Tune in for valuable tips on navigating the insurance process and insights into their work in inclusivity and accessibility!

    Ready to take the next step toward confidence and healing? ✨ Morgan & Moore Non-Surgical Hair Replacement offers free consultations and complimentary insurance verification to help you navigate the process of getting a cranial prosthesis covered. Visit www.morganandmoorenhr.com to get connected today!

    ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using hashtag #GirlsWithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!

    Meet Our Guests

    Lee Hoff and Morgan Moore are the Founders of Morgan & Moore Non-Surgical Hair Replacement and Inclusive Crowns

    Lee Hoff, a Nurse Practitioner with over a decade of oncology experience and a certified Trichologist, and Morgan Moore, a licensed cosmetologist and hair loss expert, co-founded Morgan & Moore Non-Surgical Hair Replacement and Inclusive Crowns, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, to support women affected by alopecia. Their mission is inspired by a shared faith and a heartfelt understanding of the emotional and mental toll hair loss can have.

    Motivated by the belief that restoring normalcy and confidence is as vital as any other form of healing, Lee and Morgan work to provide cranial prostheses that help women feel like themselves again. They also advocate for increased awareness and insurance coverage, ensuring these medical wigs are recognized as essential prosthetics and accessible to all who need them.

    Links
    • Visit Morgan & Moore’s website: https://www.morganandmoorenhr.com
    • Learn more about Morgan & Moore’s nonprofit, Inclusive Crowns: https://inclusivecrowns.org
    • For more information on the National Alopecia Areata Foundation and Bill HR 4034, please email gary@naaf.org.
    • Inclusive Crowns is a 501c3 nonprofit organization and donations will go to free custom human hair cranial prostheses for women in need (on average $1500-$2000 per unit), advocacy efforts, our CultivateHER training program, and innovation! Donate at: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=LSUV79PAYXCNC
    • Learn more about their Financial Assistance Application: https://inclusivecrowns.org/financial-assistance/


    Podcast Sponsor

    Today’s podcast is powered by Johnson Controls! Johnson Controls is a global leader in fire safety and suppression technologies, helping to save lives and protect people around the world. Learn more about Johnson Controls by visiting their website: https://www.johnsoncontrols.com.

    Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Fueling Recovery: Hypermetabolism & Nutrition with Dr. Victoria Miles

    Fueling Recovery: Hypermetabolism & Nutrition with Dr. Victoria Miles
    Mar 11 2025
    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, we sit down with Dr. Victoria Miles to explore the fascinating and complex world of hypermetabolism—the body's heightened metabolic response after a burn injury. 🚑 Dr. Miles, who started her career as a paramedic, shares how her experience in emergency medicine shaped her approach to burn care and patient recovery. We dive into nutrition's critical role in healing, including how the entire burn care team—dietitians, therapists, and more—works together to meet patients' nutritional needs. 🍎 Dr. Miles also breaks down the science behind protein shakes, the latest research she's working on, and what it's like working with her husband, a trauma surgeon.This episode is packed with valuable insights on how proper nutrition fuels recovery! 💪 ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlsWithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors! Meet Our Guest Dr. Victoria Miles is an Assistant Professor of Burn Surgery at University Medical Center New Orleans in association with Louisiana State University Health Science Center New Orleans. She was born and raised in South Mississippi. While completing college and medical school, Dr. Miles worked full-time as an EMT-Paramedic in Hazelhurst, Mississippi. She continues to serve as an adjunct instructor for the Holmes Community College Critical Care Paramedic program. Dr. Miles graduated from the University of Mississippi School of Medicine and completed her general surgery residency and research years at the University of Tennessee College of Medicine Chattanooga. Dr. Miles then completed her Surgical Critical Care and Burn Surgery Fellowship at University of Texas Southwestern, Parkland Hospital, in Dallas where she received the Top Knife Award for Best Fellow Technical Skills. Her research interests include military and EMS burn education, burn hypermetabolism and nutrition, limb salvage, and acute burn resuscitation and coagulopathy. Dr. Miles directs the American Burn Association Mentorship Program and serves on the American Burn Association's Reconstruction and Membership Advisory Committees. In addition, Dr. Miles was elected to the International Society of Burn Injuries' Burn Care Committee and International Burn Center Assessment Team. She is a scientific reviewer for the Journal of Burn Care and Research and the American Journal of Surgery. An early career burn surgeon, Dr. Miles has authored over 35 publications, given over 20 national podium presentations, and authored a book chapter. In her free time, Dr. Miles enjoying traveling with her husband, Dr. Daniel Miles, who is an Orthopedic Trauma Surgeon for Tulane University in New Orleans. Links Learn more about hypermetabolism after a burn injury: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3776603/Buy Fairlife protein shakes: https://fairlife.com/core-power/ View the list of facilities that offer laser services for burn survivors: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/resource-marketplace/laser-resource-listLearn more about the ABA’s Mentorship Program: https://ameriburn.org/member-services/aba-mentoring-program/Like the University Medical Center New Orleans’ LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/umcno_happy-valentines-day-umc-today-we-activity-7296260514056126464-sM7M Join Phoenix Society’s private Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/phoenixsocietypeersupport Learn more about Phoenix Society’s weekly Peer Support Chat: https://www.phoenix-society.org/what-we-do/peer-support-chat Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by Gropper & Nejat, a personal injury firm dedicated to supporting burn survivors in New York and New Jersey. They understand the physical, emotional, and financial challenges that come with burn injuries and fight tirelessly to secure justice and compensation for their clients. Receive a free consultation today by visiting groppernejat.com.Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.
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    57 mins
  • Healing Through Touch with Burn Survivor & Massage Therapist Jen Hartley

    Healing Through Touch with Burn Survivor & Massage Therapist Jen Hartley
    Mar 4 2025

    In our latest episode of Girls with Grafts, we sit down with burn survivor, massage therapist, and instructor Jen Hartley to explore the transformative power of touch in scar healing. Jen opens up about her personal burn injury and how it led her to a career in massage therapy. 💆 She shares insights into her massage therapy business, the different types of scars she works with, and the key differences between burn scar massage and traditional massage.

    Beyond the physical benefits, Jen discusses the emotional healing that happens through massage, offering advice for caregivers who want to support their loved ones through touch. ✨ She also shares recommendations for oils and lotions that work best on survivor skin. Whether you’re a survivor, a caregiver, or simply curious about the healing power of massage, this episode is filled with valuable knowledge and inspiration!

    ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!

    Meet Our Guest

    Jen Hartley is a burn survivor, author, massage therapist and massage therapy instructor.

    Jen was born to a 16 year old mom and the trajectory of both their lives changed on May 30th, 1973. Jen’s mom was giving her a bath in the kitchen sink and left her unattended briefly to answer an emergency phone call. In her absence, Jen accidentally bumped the hot water faucet. It was later discovered that the hot water heater in the rental home was set at 180 degrees. She sustained 3rd degree burns over 56% of her body.

    Jen Hartley developed Burn Scar Massage Therapy and has been passionately sharing her knowledge with therapists for 18 years. She is a 49 year survivor and is deeply rooted in the burn scar community. She has won CA AMTA Educator of the year and is a CA AMTA Community Service Award Recipient.


    Links
    • Visit Jen’s website Handle with Care Burn Scar Massage: https://handlewithcareburnscarmassage.com
    • Learn more about the benefits of scar massage for burn survivors: https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/the-benefits-of-scar-massage-for-burn-survivors
    • Watch “Introduction to Caregivers Massages:” https://resources.phoenix-society.org/resource-marketplace/video-introduction-to-caregivers-massage
    • Learn more about Phoenix World Burn Congress: https://www.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-wbc
    • Learn more about cupping: https://www.webmd.com/balance/cupping-therapy
    • Explore BioOil products: https://www.bio-oil.com/en
    • Explore Biotone products: https://biotone.com
    • Explore Bon Vital products: https://www.bonvital.com


    Podcast Sponsor

    Today’s podcast is powered by the Bert Martin Foundation! The Bert Martin Foundation was established to assist those who help others and provide financial support for nonprofit organizations. We’re honored to have the Bert Martin Foundation as a long-standing Phoenix Society Partner.

    Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

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    54 mins