Florida State landed a large 2026 signing class.
✅ 32 total signees
✅ A potential quarterback of the future in Jaden O’Neal

From a pure numbers standpoint, this class checks the Quantity box. But is the Quality there?

And even if it is: Can this class (or any future class) thrive in the current state of the program?
• The current coaching staff hasn't come close to delivering on The Standard.
• The whole football operation is about to undergo major restructuring: Allegedly.
• And financial pressures — from NIL to facilities — are adding complexity to FSU’s next chapter

Garnet & Old takes a step back to ask:
• Is this a class built to compete — or to stabilize?
• Can a Norvell staff develop these players amid instability?
• And will the program’s long-term prospects live up to its elite legacy?

The numbers are solid. The talent remains to be seen.
But the quandary lies in everything off the field.

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While we were all prepping to carve turkeys, the FSU administration carved out another year for Mike Norvell — and we’ve got thoughts. In this special Thanksgiving edition of Garnet & Old, Ryan and Vince unpack the real meaning behind the decision to stick with Norvell and what it says about fan commitment, booster vibes, and whether the FSU brass is actually aligned… or just avoiding the hard convo over leftovers.

Plus: This year’s FSU–UF rivalry game: a dry turkey with no gravy. We preview the matchup and debate whether any of it matters...

🍗 Gratitude? Sure.
🦃 Drama? Always.
🔥 Takes? Stuffed to the brim.

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The show title says it all...SHOCKING!

Here we go, everyone...tune in and join the assuredly rational conversation.

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The Seminoles fly into Raleigh with one thing on their minds: stop the bleeding and finally grab that elusive road win since 2023.

We break down:
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• Latest injuries and some recruiting talk
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🎙️ Whispers in the wind… or smoke before the fire?
OH DADDY, have we been having DREAMS of a new FSU Football era...and they DON'T STOP. We're pretty sure all of the RUMOURS are SECOND HAND NEWS, but if the Noles really are considering a Jimbo 2.0, we can already hear VCNole shouting I DON'T WANT TO KNOW. He would much prefer NEVER GOING BACK AGAIN. Everyone is already fully aware of BigPapEast's take...

This week, the Garnet & Old boys are diving into the latest FSU coaching carousel rumors — who’s being linked to where, why it’s probably nonsense, and what it means for Norvell & Co. as the Noles prep for a sleepy but sentimental homecoming game vs Wake Forest.

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Are we flying toward greatness, in final descent, or circling the tarmac with extra peanuts and no landing gear?

Florida State’s 2025 season hasn’t been a crash landing… but it sure ain’t clear skies either. With Coach Mike Norvell steering the program into more turbulence, why hasn’t FSU cut bait?

In this week’s episode, VCNole and BigPapaEast unpack the program's holding pattern:
• Why the admin is waiting
• What signs they’re looking for
• Who else is circling (👀 Franklin, Fisher, Deion rumors won’t die)
• How this impacts recruiting, NIL, and the looming ACC divorce papers

Is Norvell still the guy? Or are we politely stalling while checking other pilot résumés?

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3️⃣ straight losses. A fanbase in existential crisis. And now the Noles are flying west — not for fun, not for In-N-Out, but for salvation.

Can Florida State stop the bleeding in Palo Alto? Or are we watching the slow-motion collapse of a once-promising 2025 campaign?

Vince and Ryan break it all down:
• What’s actually broken with FSU
• Why the Stanford game might be Norvell’s gut check moment
• The “if we win, does it even matter?” conversation
• A travel map more chaotic than our offense

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Oh boy...you know it's bad when Ryan and Vince are getting together on a Sunday evening. Other schools are wasting no time in getting on with the inevitable. Are decisions being made at FSU?

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