Florida State landed a large 2026 signing class.
✅ 32 total signees
✅ A potential quarterback of the future in Jaden O’Neal

From a pure numbers standpoint, this class checks the Quantity box. But is the Quality there?

And even if it is: Can this class (or any future class) thrive in the current state of the program?
• The current coaching staff hasn't come close to delivering on The Standard.
• The whole football operation is about to undergo major restructuring: Allegedly.
• And financial pressures — from NIL to facilities — are adding complexity to FSU’s next chapter

Garnet & Old takes a step back to ask:
• Is this a class built to compete — or to stabilize?
• Can a Norvell staff develop these players amid instability?
• And will the program’s long-term prospects live up to its elite legacy?

The numbers are solid. The talent remains to be seen.
But the quandary lies in everything off the field.

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While we were all prepping to carve turkeys, the FSU administration carved out another year for Mike Norvell — and we’ve got thoughts. In this special Thanksgiving edition of Garnet & Old, Ryan and Vince unpack the real meaning behind the decision to stick with Norvell and what it says about fan commitment, booster vibes, and whether the FSU brass is actually aligned… or just avoiding the hard convo over leftovers.

Plus: This year’s FSU–UF rivalry game: a dry turkey with no gravy. We preview the matchup and debate whether any of it matters...

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