Hey y'all. This week has felt really heavy on our hearts. We know it has for you too. We discuss the death of Charlie Kirk, the train murder, and the shooting right here in Colorado. Lets take some time to talk through our grief together and see if we can't find some community and some hope.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

We are so, so grateful to all of our forensic friends old and new who came out to see us atCrimeCon. We're doing our best to rest and recuperate, but wanted to give a quick recap and shout out some highlights from the awesome sessions we attended and the amazing people we met. Thanks y'all, and see you at the next one!

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

A special thank you to all our crimecon listeners from producer G. Some of the unhinged nonsense normally left on the cutting room floor. Enjoy!

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

People will really sleep with their best friends spouse and then kill the friend and marry the spouse instead of going to therapy. In this special CrimeCon 2025 episode we talk about the documentary Mr and Mrs Murder and ask the big questions: What would these wild couples have looked like in couples counseling? Would it have prevented the tragic ending they came to? And what was Blythe's deal? Join us for thought experiments, couples counseling tools, and psychological profiling (allegedly) of the perpetrators.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

In this episode we talk through (spoilers ahead) the Netflix show Unknown Number and ask the big questions. Namely: WTF? WTAF?! and What the hell is wrong with you, Kendra?! We discuss histrionic behavior, munchausen-by-proxy in the digital age, and if and how it's possible to come back from a big, big screw-up. Some people will ruin their kids lives instead of going to therapy. Don't be one of them!

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Inspired by the Netflix documentary Stalking Samantha, this episode is a deep dive into the real-world implications of stalking. We'll discuss the immense courage required by the victim to come forward and face her abuser, and the infuriating roadblocks she encountered in the legal system. Our conversation also focuses on the psychological traits that drive stalkers, and why their behavior can be so difficult for law enforcement and the courts to properly address. This episode highlights the critical need for a more comprehensive and compassionate approach to protecting survivors of stalking

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

In this midweek mini, we have a quick discussion about the complex relationship dynamics behind the idea of "mankeeping". Are women doing the emotional labor? Who is carrying the mental load? And how can we put these things aside and help achieve relationship equality?

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

In September 1996, Tupac Shakur was shot and killed in Las Vegas. Six months later, Biggie Smalls met the same fate in Los Angeles. This episode takes a detailed look at the final days of these two iconic artists and the investigations into their deaths. We examine the alleged connections between the murders, the role of their famous feud, and the theories that have circulated for over two decades, revealing a story of a rivalry that ended in tragedy and left behind a legacy of unanswered questions

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.