In this gripping episode of Forensic Friday, we sit down with survivor and advocate @gracee_elizabethh host of @whyshestayedpodcast to shed light on the hidden tactics of domestic abusers — and the extraordinary courage it takes to break free.

Grace opens up about:

• How the relationship began with charm, intensity, and “you’re my everything”
• The subtle red flags that escalated into full-scale control
• The trauma bond that made leaving feel impossible
• The moment she realized her life was at risk
• How she rebuilt her identity and now empowers others to escape

Domestic abuse doesn’t always look like violence — sometimes it’s isolation, fear, power, and control behind closed doors. Grace’s story is a powerful reminder that leaving is not a single moment, but a process of reclaiming safety, autonomy, and self-worth.

If you or someone you know might be experiencing abuse:
📞 National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)
💬 Text START to 88788
🌐 Chat online at thehotline.org
🚨 If you are in immediate danger, call 911

Trigger Warning: discussions of domestic abuse, coercive control, trauma

🎧 Listen now and share to help raise awareness — no one should have to navigate abuse alone.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Why do people stay in relationships that hurt them? This mini-episode explains the powerful psychological concept of Trauma Bonding—a dynamic often mistaken for love, where cycles of abuse and affection create an intense, addictive attachment. We clearly define this pattern and compare it to other maladaptive relationship styles, including dependent and codependent attachment. Finally, we discuss what the goal should be: establishing a healthy, secure attachment and offer a brief look at what that safety and genuine intimacy truly look like.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

We examine the horrific true story at the heart of the documentary Into the Fire: The Lost Daughter. The series reveals the tragedy of Aundria Bowman, who disappeared after enduring years of alleged abuse by her adoptive father, Dennis Bowman, which was largely ignored by authorities. We discuss the shocking details of Dennis Bowman's history, how his arrest in an unrelated cold case ultimately led to his confession in Aundria's murder 30 years later, and the profound questions the case raises about the justice system's failure to protect vulnerable children.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

On Wednesday August 15th, Roam the police k9 was stabbed during the police response to a domestic violence call. He was treated and is expected to make a full recovery, but it got us thinking about our animal companions. Listen in as we talk a little about our furry friends, and tell us about yours in the comments.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Welcome back to part 2 of our discussion on the Chris Watts case. We discuss the follow up interviews by the incredible investigative team working the case, and try to unravel the big question of whether the psychopathy diagnosis fits the man behind the murders or whether there's a different set of labels that make more sense. Sound off in the comments whether you agree with our final assessment or not!

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Ali and Anton? Madison and Joe? Nat and Jeannine! We take a lighter moment this week to talk about our latest trash reality obsession, Love is Blind. All the hot takes on the top couples and the lowdown on the Denver dating scene from some local gals thankful not to be in it. And sound off in the comments if you think our takes are trashier than the show!

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Before the world learned the horrific truth, Chris Watts appeared on television pleading for the return of his family. This is Part 1 of our two-part examination of the devastating Chris Watts case. We delve into the early life and financial struggles of the Watts family, the betrayal that fractured the marriage, and the chilling double life Chris maintained. We cover the moment the initial missing persons report was filed and the immediate, unsettling lies Chris told to investigators and the public, leading us right up to the discovery of the crime that ended the lives of Shanann and her two young daughters.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

In this episode we bring back special guest Producer G! Jeannine peppers him woth all her favorite doom scrolling questions and we talk about 'The Algorithm', the secret fact that AI is so very stupid, and why TikTok is so bad for you.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.