This week, we revisit the Elizabeth Smart case, focusing on the strength of the human spirit. We walk through the timeline of her disappearance and rescue, specifically highlighting the ways Elizabeth maintained her identity and agency during her 9-month ordeal. We then transition into the vital work she does today, advocating for survivor-centric legislation and child safety education. This episode is a deep dive into how Elizabeth Smart redefined her narrative, moving from a victim of a 'sensational crime' to a powerful leader in the field of trauma recovery.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

A quick update today discussing what we know about the new revelations in the kidnapping of Nancy Guthrie, including some speculation about who ALLEGEDLY might be behind the disappearance

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

When police entered the home of Billie Payne and Billy Jean Hayworth, they found a scene of horror: both parents had been shot, but their infant son was found alive and unharmed in his mother's arms. This episode dives into the proxy violence used by the perpetrator to exact revenge. We break down the 'CIA' emails sent to third parties to incite them to violence and discuss the psychological dynamics of the family that allowed such a transparent lie to take root

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.