Episodes

  • From MMA & Auto Sales to Spray Foam Success | Mac Waters | Foam to Fortune Ep. 32
    Nov 7 2025

    Welcome to Foam to Fortune — The #1 Podcast for Spray Foam Entrepreneurs!


    In this episode, we sit down with Mac Waters, owner of Hometown Spray Foam in Georgia, to discuss how he’s building a strong local brand through smart pricing, marketing consistency, and deep community roots. Mac shares valuable insights on navigating franchise challenges, managing equipment costs, and keeping margins strong while staying customer-focused.


    Whether you’re just starting your spray foam business or scaling up to dominate your market, this episode is loaded with practical tips and strategies that can help you level up fast.



    ⏱️ Chapters

    00:00 - Podcast Introduction

    00:51 - Guest Background and Early Career

    03:30 - Work Ethic and Expansion Plans

    04:20 - Residential & Commercial Focus

    05:59 - Franchise Experience and Equipment Costs

    06:54 - Building the Hometown Brand

    08:44 - Community Marketing and Word-of-Mouth

    10:51 - Sponsorship Spotlight + Pricing Obstacles

    13:14 - Customer Education and Value Proposition

    15:31 - Competitive Pricing and Margin Management

    17:43 - Marketing Tactics & Social Media Presence

    19:29 - Industry Regulation Discussion

    21:01 - Licensing and Standards

    23:00 - Estimating Challenges on Large Projects

    25:15 - Regulation and Standards

    28:04 - Inspection Standards

    29:51 - Sponsor Messages

    31:41 - Future Marketing Strategies

    33:56 - Industry Challenges and Pricing Pressures

    35:52 - Customer Interaction and Estimate Strategies

    38:14 - Budget Constraints and Service Decisions

    40:03 - Profit Margins and Business Philosophy

    42:38 - Large Residential Projects

    44:25 - Unique Projects and Estimation Challenges

    46:25 - Container Homes and Project Logistics

    47:42 - Regulation Advocacy

    49:34 - Regulation Implementation Ideas

    51:51 - Benefits of Regulation

    55:12 - Closing Remarks

    56:23 - Final Goodbyes


    💡 Episode Value

    • Learn how to grow your brand in a competitive market.

    • Understand the real costs and pricing dynamics of spray foam work.

    • Hear Mac’s approach to keeping business local while scaling profitably.

    • Discover marketing tactics that actually work for spray foam contractors.



    🔗 Sponsors

    FoamBid — The Spray Foam Marketplace

    👉 https://foambid.co


    Spray Foam Genius Marketing — Elevate Your Brand, Dominate Your Market

    📧 info@sprayfoamgeniusmarketing.com

    📞 877-840-FOAM

    📸 @sprayfoamgenius




    👤 Connect with Mac Waters

    @hometownsprayfoam




    🎤 Connect with Foam to Fortune

    📸 Instagram: @foamtofortune

    📸 Host: @officialspencerhart

    💻 Book a marketing strategy call: https://calendly.com/plantpoweredmarketing/30-min-meeting-discuss-spray-foam-marketing-clone


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    59 mins
  • Sales Mastery for Contractors w/ Leonel Sanchez | Foam To Fortune #31
    Oct 31 2025

    🎙 Welcome to Foam To Fortune — Episode #31!

    This week, we sit down with Leonel Sanchez, the driving force behind Opulence Sales Agency, to break down how contractors can master sales systems, lead generation, and team scaling to boost revenue across the spray foam and home services industries.


    From powerful cold-calling techniques to B2B client strategies and mindset for growth, Leonel shares how Opulence helps service businesses build profitable sales pipelines — whether you’re running crews, closing insulation jobs, or scaling a multi-state operation.



    🕒 Chapters

    00:34 – Host welcome and guest introduction

    01:00 – What is Opulence Sales Agency?

    04:26 – B2B focus and lead-generation system

    08:34 – Cold-calling, scripting, and objection handling

    14:33 – Field visits and sponsor message

    18:19 – Persistence and sales success stories

    22:17 – Scaling, valuation, and corporate sales lessons

    27:48 – Hiring a sales team and selling hours model

    34:00 – Pricing, engagement models, remote vs local work

    38:38 – Leonel’s mindset, habits, and personal development

    59:36 – Final thoughts, contact info, and outro



    💼 Connect with Leonel Sanchez

    🌐 Website: https://www.opulencemanagement.co/

    📸 Instagram: @opulencesalesagency

    📧 Email: info@opulencemanagement.co




    💥 Sponsored By

    Spray Foam Genius Marketing — the all-in-one growth engine for spray foam contractors.

    📧 Email: info@sprayfoamgeniusmarketing.com

    📞 US: (877)-840-FOAM

    📞 CA: (844)-741-FOAM

    📸 Instagram: @foamtofortune | @officialspencerhart


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    📌 Hashtags

    #SprayFoamBusiness #ContractorSales #SprayFoamMarketing #FoamToFortune #BusinessGrowth #SalesTraining #ContractorSuccess


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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • From Montana to Momentum: Donny Morton’s Spray Foam Success Story | Ep 30
    Oct 24 2025

    🎙 Welcome to Foam To Fortune!


    The podcast where spray foam contractors and insulation pros learn how to build real, profitable businesses from the best in the industry.


    🔥 Episode 30 features Donny Morton, founder of Bulletproof Insulation in Montana — a true example of grit, craftsmanship, and business discipline in the spray foam world. From running remote jobs across Montana’s rugged terrain to building a team culture rooted in precision and integrity, Donny shares what it really takes to build a bulletproof business in today’s competitive market.


    💡 In this episode, you’ll discover:


    • How Donny built Bulletproof Insulation into one of Montana’s most trusted spray foam brands

    • The operational challenges and logistics of working remote projects

    • Leadership lessons from scaling crews and building SOPs that last

    • Recruiting and retaining top talent in small-town markets

    • How community reputation and consistency drive long-term success



    🎧 Whether you’re a solo operator or scaling a multi-rig team, this episode is packed with real-world insights, business systems, and mindset strategies that’ll help you insulate your business from burnout and build lasting success.


    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 - Host welcome and guest introduction

    01:26 - Donny’s early life and path into spray foam

    05:08 - Early rig setup challenges and learning resources

    06:15 - How farm/ranch skills translated to running a rig

    08:14 - Operational realities of working in remote Montana

    10:00 - Scenery, stories and TV-show references from Montana jobs

    13:09 - Growth pains: scaling crews, SOPs, and burnout

    16:04 - Hiring challenges, training and retention

    17:33 - Recruiting, Montana lifestyle perks, and year-round work

    28:29 - Small-town business culture and reputation

    35:27 - Trusting instincts after a difficult contract

    37:15 - Major remote project: the roping arena

    41:34 - Large-job logistics, rhythm and the spray-foam dance

    46:29 - Contamination issues and industry community support

    48:56 - Donny’s weight-loss journey and recovery

    54:39 - On-site safety, first aid and EMS parallels

    63:46 - Industry regulation, licensing and continuing education

    67:58 - Manufacturers, distributors and responsibility for licensure

    70:18 - Episode wrap-up and contact info



    🔗 Connect with Our Sponsors


    🧠 Spray Foam Genius Marketing


    Helping spray foam contractors dominate online with expert web design, SEO, and digital strategy.


    📧 info@sprayfoamgeniusmarketing.com

    📞 US: (877)-840-FOAM | CA: (844)-741-FOAM

    📸 Instagram: @sprayfoamgeniusmarketing


    🔗 FoamBid

    FoamBid helps spray foam contractors win more jobs with qualified leads, transparent bidding, and powerful tools designed to grow your business faster and smarter.


    📧 contact@foambid.co

    🌐 www.foambid.co

    📞 (877)-505-FOAM

    📸 Instagram: @foambid

    📘 Facebook: FoamBid



    👤 Connect with Donny Morton

    🌐 Website: bulletproofinsulation.com

    📸 Instagram: @bulletproofinsulation

    📘 Facebook: Bulletproof Insulation



    🎤 Subscribe for More Foam To Fortune Episodes:

    👉 YouTube.com/@FoamToFortune



    📚 Hashtags:

    #FoamToFortune #SprayFoamBusiness #BulletproofInsulation #ContractorMarketing #InsulationBusiness #EntrepreneurPodcast #SprayFoamLife


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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • Ep. 29: Ken Ashcom on Building Spray Foam Partners & EMA | Spray Foam Business Growth
    Oct 17 2025

    🎙 Welcome to Foam To Fortune!

    The podcast where spray foam contractors and insulation pros learn how to build real, profitable businesses from the best in the industry.


    🔥 Episode 29 features Ken Ashcom, founder of Spray Foam Partners and Energy Modeling Agency (EMA). Ken reveals how he built two powerful companies that help contractors scale, streamline operations, and dominate their local markets.


    💡 In this episode, you’ll discover:


    • How Ken scaled Spray Foam Partners & EMA into nationwide brands

    • Pricing and leadership strategies every spray foam owner should know

    • The marketing systems that attract high-quality clients

    • What separates successful contractors from the rest of the pack



    🎧 Whether you’re new to spray foam or scaling your team, this episode is packed with field-tested insights and business growth strategies.



    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 - Intro: Meet Ken Ashcom from Spray Foam Partners & EMA

    01:45 - From Jobsite to CEO: Ken’s Journey in Spray Foam

    06:25 - Launching Spray Foam Partners & Growing Nationwide

    12:10 - Building Energy Modeling Agency (EMA)

    18:30 - Systems & Processes That Drive Profitability

    25:15 - Marketing and Contractor Partnerships

    31:40 - Mistakes to Avoid When Scaling a Foam Business

    38:20 - Leadership Mindset for Growth

    44:50 - Ken’s Vision for the Spray Foam Industry

    51:00 - Closing Thoughts & Where to Connect



    🔗 Connect with Our Sponsor — Spray Foam Genius Marketing

    📧 info@sprayfoamgeniusmarketing.com

    📞 US: (877)-840-FOAM | CA: (844)-741-FOAM

    📸 Instagram: @sprayfoamgenius



    🔗 Connect with Our Sponsor — FoamBid

    🧠 FoamBid helps spray foam contractors win more jobs with qualified leads, transparent bidding, and powerful contractor tools — designed to help you grow your business faster and smarter.


    📧 Email: info@foambid.com

    🌐 Website: https://www.foambid.com

    📞 Call: (877)-505-FOAM

    📸 Instagram: @foambid

    📘 Facebook: FoamBid



    👤 Connect with Ken Ashcom:

    🌐 Spray Foam Partners | (800) 957-1631

    🌐 Energy Modeling Agency (EMA)




    🎤 Subscribe for More Foam to Fortune Episodes:

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    📚 Hashtags:

    #FoamToFortune #SprayFoamBusiness #SprayFoamPartners #EMAgency #ContractorMarketing #InsulationBusiness #EntrepreneurPodcast

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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • Episode 28 — “Roof Coatings That Scale | Andy Near’s Next Level Success”
    Oct 10 2025

    In Episode 28, we sit down with Andy Near, the powerhouse behind Next Level Roofer, to talk about his journey from residential roofing to mastering commercial coatings — and building a family-driven business that thrives in both profit and purpose.

    From scaling strategically to learning coatings from the ground up, Andy shares exactly how he built momentum, created trust through demos and videos, and turned small wins into big opportunities.

    If you’ve ever wondered how to transition into coatings, simplify your systems, and win commercial work — this episode is packed with gold.


    🕒 Chapters

    00:00 - Guest introduction and early life
    03:15 - Marriage struggles, reset, and naming the company
    05:15 - Scaling, shifting to commercial work, and antiscaling
    06:58 - Family involvement and celebrating big wins
    13:50 - Details of the biggest job and scope (roof coating vs foam)
    16:57 - How Andy learned coatings and partnering with a manufacturer
    23:38 - Advice on adding coatings, prep, thickness, and warranties
    29:51 - Building trust with demos, videos, and creative demonstrations
    38:13 - Serving customers, giving value, and playing the long game
    49:15 - Sales cycles, automation, simplicity, and operating a small commercial crew
    60:22 - Time freedom, success, retirement plans, and closing thoughts


    🔗 Connect with Andy Near

    🌐 Website: https://nextlevelroofer.com
    📘 Facebook: NEXT LEVEL Roofer with Andy Near
    📧 Email: andy@roofsbyempire.com


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    📸 Instagram: @foamtofortune
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    🎧 About Foam to Fortune

    Each week, we sit down with spray foam pros, and growth-minded contractors who share the real strategies behind their success.
    From jobsite stories to marketing insights — every episode helps you level up your business and your mindset.

    🎤 Want to be a guest on the show?
    DM us on Instagram at @foamtofortune.


    📌 Hashtags

    #SprayFoamBusiness #RoofCoatings #RoofingSuccess #FoamToFortune #ContractorPodcast #CommercialRoofing #FoamBid #SprayFoamGenius #CoatingsContractor #EntrepreneurshipPodcast

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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • Spray Foam in Extreme Cold | Lane Mizera’s Canadian Success Ep. 27
    Oct 3 2025
    From Alberta, Canada, Lane Mizera shares his journey in spray foam contracting, overcoming extreme weather challenges, and building a successful business.This episode of Foam to Fortune explores how Canadian contractors adapt to cold climates, maintain equipment, and lead teams in remote spray foam projects.🔑 In This Episode You’ll Learn:Lane Mizera’s entry into the spray foam businessHow Canadian weather impacts spray foam jobsTechnical tips for cold-weather spray foam applicationsEquipment heating, maintenance, and repair solutionsLeadership lessons and people management challengesIndustry standards, regulation, and certification in CanadaInsights on training, education, and mentorship for new contractorsStories from remote projects and unique job experiences👤 Guest Info:Lane Mizera – Spray foam contractor & entrepreneur from Alberta, Canada.💡 Sponsors:FoamBid.co – The contractor bidding marketplace for spray foam jobs.Spray Foam Genius Marketing – Helping contractors grow through digital marketing strategies.👉 Learn more at:https://www.FoamBid.cohttps://www.SprayFoamGeniusMarketing.com🔔 Subscribe for more spray foam business growth content:Click here to subscribe⏱️ Timestamps (Chapters) 0:00 – Introduction to Foam to Fortune Podcast and Guest Introduction1:13 – Lane Mizera’s Background and Entry into Spray Foam Business4:25 – Evolution and Growth of Lane’s Spray Foam Equipment and Business10:19 – Challenges in Business: Staffing and Management12:47 – Lane’s Experience with People Management and Leadership Style14:09 – Impact of Canadian Weather on Spray Foam Operations16:21 – Planning and Adapting Spray Foam Work Around Extreme Cold17:53 – Technical Preparations for Cold Weather Spray Foam Application20:08 – Equipment Heating Solutions and Cold Weather Maintenance21:31 – Shop Facilities and Storage Challenges22:46 – Future Business Opportunities in Canadian Spray Foam Market25:49 – Remote and Logistical Challenges in Northern Spray Foam Projects28:30 – Common Equipment Issues and Repair Experiences in the Industry30:27 – Unique Remote Job Experiences and Challenges34:28 – Industry Mentality and Equipment Maintenance Culture35:45 – Lack of Knowledge and Training in Spray Foam Industry36:28 – Sponsorship and Promotion of FoamBid App37:16 – Observations on Poor Practices and Equipment Misuse38:13 – Offer to Rebuild Guns for Southern States Contractors38:55 – Industry-wide Equipment Neglect and Its Consequences40:48 – Importance of Setting Standards and Regulations in Spray Foam Industry41:40 – Certification and Training Requirements in Canada43:35 – Failures Due to Lack of Experience and Equipment Misuse44:35 – Admiration for Skilled Spray Foam Professionals46:03 – Discussion on Regulation and Certification in Canada vs. US48:09 – Accountability of Chemical Suppliers and Contractors49:12 – Importance of Education and Resources in Spray Foam Industry51:26 – Technical Tips and Gun Maintenance Advice52:39 – Historical Perspective on Industry Governance53:23 – Role of Social Media and Online Resources in Learning53:47 – Encouragement for Newcomers to Gain Experience Before Buying Equipment54:32 – Current State of Industry Entry Friction and Regulation55:46 – Impact of Finding Gord on Lane’s Success56:42 – Mechanical Aptitude and Willingness to Tinker58:01 – Maintenance Practices and Working Smarter59:40 – Fun Industry Questions: Preferred Foam Smell and Color61:58 – Dream Spray Foam Project: Northern Military Base64:42 – Discussion on Weather Preferences and Industry Camaraderie66:11 – Closing Remarks and Contact Information📌 Hashtags#SprayFoamBusiness #ColdWeatherSprayFoam #ContractorSuccess #FoamToFortune #EntrepreneurshipPodcast #CanadianContractors
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Viral Spray Foam Success & Business Growth | Michael Clark Ep. 26
    Sep 26 2025

    From viral video success to building a thriving spray foam business, Michael Clark shares his journey, lessons, and growth strategies on Foam to Fortune.


    Discover how social media, sales strategies, and mindset shifts can transform your business and open new opportunities in the spray foam industry.


    🔑 In This Episode You’ll Learn:


    • How Michael Clark’s viral video kickstarted his business growth

    • The role of social media in building trust, branding, and sales

    • Overcoming early challenges in spray foam contracting

    • Sales strategies, pricing, and connecting with customers authentically

    • Leadership, delegation, and building a motivated team

    • Work-life balance, personal freedom, and future growth plans

    • Insights on regulation, certification, and industry standards


    👤 Guest Info:

    Michael Clark – Entrepreneur, viral video creator, and spray foam business owner


    Links:

    clarksprayfoam.com

    Instagram: Clark Spray Foam

    Instagram: clarkstar_atlnuker



    💡 Sponsors:


    • FoamBid.co – The contractor bidding marketplace for spray foam jobs.

    • Spray Foam Genius Marketing – Helping contractors grow through digital marketing strategies.


    👉 Learn more at:


    • ⁠https://www.FoamBid.co⁠

    • ⁠https://www.SprayFoamGeniusMarketing.com⁠



    🔔 Subscribe for more spray foam business growth content:

    ⁠Click here to subscribe⁠



    ⏱️ Timestamps (Chapters)

    0:00 – Introduction to the Podcast and Guest

    2:04 – Michael Clark’s Background and Viral Video Success

    3:34 – Creating Engaging Social Media Content

    6:07 – Business Growth and Opportunities from Social Media

    6:53 – Michael’s Entry into Spray Foam Industry

    9:02 – Burning the Boats: Commitment to Success

    13:01 – Challenges of Early Spray Foam Work

    15:59 – Podcast Studio Arrival and Casual Conversation

    16:50 – Failures and Mindset in Business Growth

    18:06 – Michael’s Upbringing and Mindset Development

    19:35 – Faith, Gratitude, and Helping Others

    20:35 – Business Growth, Customer Trust, and Sales Approach

    23:08 – Sales Strategy and Personal Branding

    26:40 – Michael’s Sales Experience and Customer Connection

    28:38 – Human Connection in Sales vs. Traditional Selling

    31:03 – Pricing Strategy and Follow-up Process

    31:56 – Use of CRM and Memory in Managing Sales

    33:40 – Mistakes, Learning, and Managing Employees

    39:01 – Handling Employee Errors and Insurance

    40:21 – Process Improvement and Employee Value

    41:54 – Impact of Business on Employees’ Lives

    43:56 – Diversity and Hard Work in the Team

    45:08 – Delegation, Growth, and Renewed Energy

    46:27 – Work-Life Balance and Personal Fulfillment

    48:16 – Freedom and Experiences Enabled by Success

    49:27 – Family and Future Plans

    50:45 – Social Media and Marketing Approach

    52:03 – Creativity and Breaking the Box in Business

    53:33 – Authenticity and Overcoming Fear of Judgment

    54:54 – Marketing Boldness and Public Interaction

    56:36 – Viral Video Ideas and Personal Branding with Cowboy Hat

    58:50 – Custom Cowboy Hat Story and New Media Look

    61:21 – Origin of Clark Star ATL Nuker Brand

    63:17 – Closing Remarks and Podcast Wrap-up

    64:28 – Discussion on Regulation in Spray Foam Industry

    66:44 – Benefits and Challenges of Regulation

    68:13 – Value-Driven Business vs. Competition

    69:12 – Certification and Industry Standards

    70:21 – Final Thoughts on Business Growth and Future Plans

    73:26 – Closing and Farewell



    📌 Hashtags

    #SprayFoamBusiness #ContractorMarketing #FoamToFortune #EntrepreneurshipPodcast #SocialMediaGrowth #ViralVideoSuccess


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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • How Candace Lord Dominates in a Male-Driven Spray Foam Industry | Ep. 25
    Sep 12 2025

    🎙 Welcome to Foam To Fortune – the podcast where spray foam contractors and business leaders share their stories, strategies, and insights to help you build a stronger business and better life.


    🔥 In Episode 25, we sit down with Candace Lord, powerhouse leader at The Green Cocoon Spray Foam. She’s carved her own path in one of construction’s toughest male-dominated industries, proving that mindset, resilience, and heart can transform business and life.


    Candace dives deep into her journey — from starting in sales to leading operations, building trust with customers, and advocating for higher industry standards. Beyond business, she shares how meditation, breathwork, and gratitude keep her grounded while running a successful company.


    • Breaking barriers as a woman in spray foam

    • Turning sales into a superpower

    • “Hippy-dippy” mindset tools: meditation, breathwork & gratitude

    • Surviving cancer & transforming adversity into strength

    • The importance of professionalism, licensing & regulation

    • Why educating customers builds trust and industry pride


    🌐 Website: thegreencocoon.com

    📸 Instagram: @thegreencocoonsprayfoam

    📘 Facebook: The Green Cocoon



    🎧 Follow the Podcast: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube

    📸 Instagram: @foamtofortune

    📸 Instagram: @officialspencerhart

    💻 Sponsor: Spray Foam Genius Marketing

    📧 info@sprayfoamgeniusmarketing.com

    📞 US: (877)-840-FOAM | CA: (844)-741-FOAM


    💬 What did you think of Candace’s story? Drop your thoughts in the comments — we love hearing from you!



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    00:00 – Intro to Foam To Fortune + Guest Intro

    01:00 – Candace Lord’s Background & Entry into Spray Foam

    03:10 – Early Roles & Learning the Business

    05:44 – Transition to Sales & Developing Skills

    08:43 – Running The Green Cocoon Today

    11:26 – Thriving in a Male-Dominated Industry

    15:06 – Sales Techniques & Building Trust

    19:06 – Mindset, Meditation & Stress Management

    24:38 – Emotional Intelligence & Leadership

    28:35 – Breathwork, Wim Hof & Team Culture

    31:35 – Gratitude & Positive Culture in Business

    35:38 – Surviving Cancer & Life Transformation

    39:35 – Perseverance, Reading & Self-Improvement

    43:08 – Sales as a Superpower + Tips for Success

    46:53 – Educating Customers & Industry Challenges

    52:02 – Handling Objections & Explaining Technical Details

    55:47 – Failures, Lessons & Leadership Growth

    62:35 – The Bidding Process, Communication & Mistakes

    64:05 – Industry Regulation & Licensing Advocacy

    67:43 – Certification, Training & Customer Education

    74:05 – Accountability, Cheap Foam & Pricing Transparency

    79:44 – Benefits of Regulation & Closing Remarks


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    1 hr and 25 mins