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On this episode of Everything’s Messy Podcast I am joined by bestie of, gulp, 3 decades Channa Duboff. We’ve zigged and zagged through life with different worldviews and still meet in the middle with a friendship that’s strong, honest, and hilariously messy. 🥰

Channa, mom, wife, and an ICU nurse who’s currently heading back to school to become a nurse practitioner. We dig into what the medical field has taught her beyond textbooks—how every body is different, why good foundations matter, and what it looks like to advocate for patients in a system that often prefers tidy boxes over real-life nuance.

From there, we dive into lifestyle medicine—mind and body. Stress management comes first (or at least early!), and sometimes it’s as simple as stepping into a stairwell for ten slow breaths. We chat about social media pressure, giving ourselves grace, and choosing progress over perfection. Then we get practical: why steady-state cardio + strength training can coexist, how body-weight moves count, why bone density matters as we age, and why “I don’t want to look like a bodybuilder” isn’t a reason to skip the weights. 🏋️‍♀️🚶‍♀️

We get spicy about “cougar puberty” (hi, perimenopause 👋), and laugh our way through real talk on hot yoga, breathwork, red-light therapy, acupuncture wins, and why inflammation + gut imbalance sit at the root of so much chronic illness. Lifestyle changes aren’t punishment—they’re freedom.

And now… the exciting announcement you’ve been waiting for! 🎉

I’m launching a brand-new show with Channa: Truth & Pink—for the women no one’s talking about. We’re Gen X/Xennial, still cool, still loud, still here, and very much not fading into the background. Expect unfiltered chats on midlife, family, fashion, beauty, wellness (hello, “emotional support water bottle”), money talk, and “cougar puberty”—with sass and sisterhood. Pink isn’t just a color—it’s a state of mind. 💗

Join our live premiere on YouTube on September 23 (from Las Vegas!) and catch new episodes every Tuesday wherever you listen. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok @truthandpink, and subscribe on YouTube at Truth and Pink. Come laugh, eye-roll, cry, and exhale with us—one unapologetic, laugh-out-loud conversation at a time.

SO, grab your coffee, your wine, or your emotional support water bottle and let’s do this. 🥂

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In this episode of Everything’s Messy Podcast, I sat down with Zoa Conner, a wellbeing and lifestyle alchemist, travel strategist, and—get this—she also holds a PhD in physics! I loved how she weaves together science, movement, wellness, and even travel to create a truly unique perspective on health and healing.

Zoa shared her story of starting as a ballet dancer, moving into science and physics, and eventually returning to movement through yoga and Pilates after becoming a mom. Her journey deepened even more when her daughter faced chronic illness from mold exposure and a serious ankle injury. Instead of settling for conventional medicine’s “wait and see” approach, Zoa tapped into her problem-solving skills as a physicist and her fierce mama bear instincts to seek out holistic solutions. Her insights into how the body connects—like how an ankle boot can affect hips, shoulders, and even sleep—were so eye-opening.

We also dove deep into mold illness, detoxing, and why preparing the body’s systems in the right order is so crucial before attempting detox. Zoa broke down complex ideas like MCAS and autoimmunity in a way that makes total sense, and I especially loved how she explained the immune system as an army with special ops—it was such a clear and empowering visual!

Another fascinating part of our conversation was Zoa’s work in travel as a functional part of wellness. Instead of treating vacations like stressful events, she helps people use travel intentionally as a way to reset routines, experience new environments, and actually support health. We talked about everything from choosing destinations that balance your lifestyle needs to making travel feel restorative instead of draining. Her upcoming retreat in Iceland sounded magical—designed not for jam-packed sightseeing, but for true restoration and connection with the environment.

Zoa has a fun quiz that helps you discover your personal “travel goddess profile,” giving tailored tips on how to make travel more supportive for your wellness. You can find it at intentional-vitality.com/quiz, and also learn more about her work at zenandvitality.com.

This conversation really highlighted how science, intuition, and lifestyle all merge together when it comes to health. Zoa’s perspective reminded me that healing and wellness aren’t one-size-fits-all—they’re about finding the connections others might miss and creating solutions that work for your unique body and life.

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Hey messy people! 💕 Can you believe it?! This episode marks TWO YEARS of Everything’s Messy Podcast! 🎉 I’m honestly blown away that we’re heading into Season 3. Today’s episode is my love letter to Season 2 — tying it up with a big messy bow 🎀, giving it a kiss and a hug 💋, and looking ahead to what’s coming next.

When I started this show, it was just me, my heart attack recovery, and a whole lot of feelings about how lost I felt in the medical system. 😔 I needed a space to vent and wondered if anyone else out there felt the same. Spoiler alert: YOU DID. 💖 From there, this podcast evolved into a safe, authentic place for deep conversations about life’s mess — health struggles, mom guilt, autoimmune diagnoses, heartache, and the beautiful magic that can come out of all that chaos.

Over the last two years, I’ve shared my own messy journey (hello gym meltdowns 🙋‍♀️), incredible guest stories, and lots of solo chats on everything from wellness trends to self-advocacy. We’ve laughed, cried, and connected in ways I never imagined when I hit record for the first time. And through it all, one thing has become crystal clear: mess is universal. 🌎 What matters is what we choose to do with it.

In this episode, I reflect on:

• How this podcast started as my personal journal and became a community of connection 💬
  
  
• The power of being authentically messy and how sharing struggles leads to transformation ✨
  
  
• Some of my favorite guest moments — from Dr. Diana Driscoll’s insights on POTS, to Linda Torgensen helping women over 50 reclaim health, to heart-melting stories like a little boy’s wagon of hope ❤️
  
  
• Why I’m obsessed (in the best way!) with helping you advocate for yourself and your health 🩺
  
  
• What’s coming in Season 3 — more inspiring guests, deeper convos, and a HUGE announcement this fall 👀
  
  

My hope? That even one listener out there felt seen and heard, and maybe even empowered to take messy action in their own life. If you’ve been riding this messy wave with me since day one or you just found the show — THANK YOU. 🫶 You’re why I do this.

Here’s to Season 3, more messy magic, and finding your strength through life’s storms. 🌪️💪 As always, grab your water (and electrolytes 😉), hit play, and let’s keep these real conversations going.

Love you all so much — thank you for an unforgettable two years. On to the next adventure! 🥂