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Debugger

Debugger

By: Bob Sullivan
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A podcast about technology and democracy, sponsored by Duke University's Sanford School of Public Policy.Bob Sullivan Politics & Government
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  • 'Sugar High' part 3 -- Does it have to be tech vs art?
    Feb 25 2026

    Jen Jacobsen of the Artist Rights Alliance joins host Bob Sullivan to talk about the decades-long 'battle' between artists and tech firms. Will it come to a head with AI music? Can we build incentives into the system that reward creators? This is part 3 of Debugger's miniseries on the future of music called "Sugar High."

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    46 mins
  • Sugar High, part 2: With AI music, can you believe your ears?
    Feb 18 2026

    There are a lot of scared composers, songwriters, and performers out there, we learn in part two of our miniseries "Sugar High." Streaming disrupted the music industry, but artificial intelligence could bring even more dramatic change, says Reid Wick, director of advocacy for the organization that gives out the Grammy Awards.

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    37 mins
  • Sugar High, Part 1 -- The Future of Music?
    Feb 11 2026

    Tech firms like Spotify have already upended the music business, with many artists struggling to adjust. Will AI-generated music mean the end of musicians? In this miniseries, Debugger follows Grammy-nominated folk musician Tift Merritt as she records her first new record in nearly a decade and tries to navigate this perilous time for musicians. In part 1, Merritt tells host Bob Sullivan what it's like to re-enter the industry after taking 8 years off to raise her daughter.

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    39 mins
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