In this episode Dinker and Sachin explore one of the most pervasive—and often invisible—data debt.

We’ve all heard of Technical Debt—the shortcuts teams take to release faster, knowing they’ll have to “pay it back” later. But today we go deeper and introduce its lesser-known, more dangerous cousin: Data Debt.

👉 In this conversation, we unpack:

* What Tech Debt actually means beyond the textbook definition * What exactly is Data Debt, and why does it often go unnoticed? * The 7 types of Data Debt (Quality, Pipeline, Schema, Metadata, Lineage, Governance, Observability) * How Data Debt erodes something far more important than delivery speed — trust

🔑 Key insight:

Tech Debt slows down scaling software. Data Debt slows down decision-making & erodes trust.

Whether you’re a product manager, data leader, architect, or engineer, this episode will change how you think about speed, trade-offs, and long-term impact.

Platforms • Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/data-untangled/id1685928302 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@data-untangled

About: • Views expressed are our own and do not necessarily reflect that of our employer • Dinker Charak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinkercharak - https://www.dinker.in • Sachin Dharmapurikar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmapurikar

Dinker and Sachin talk about their respective journeys from world of Digital to that of Data.

Platforms • https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/data-untangled/id1685928302 • https://www.youtube.com/@data-untangled

About: • Views expressed are our own and do not necessarily reflect that of our employer • Dinker Charak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinkercharak - https://www.dinker.in • Sachin Dharmapurikar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmapurikar

Dinker and Sachin talk about Value & Value Stream Mapping. You can access the mentioned Mural here: https://www.eebo.org/getstarted.html

Notes & Mentions: • The Async-First Playbook by Sumeet Gayathri Moghe (https://www.amazon.in/Async-First-Playbook-Collaboration-Techniques-Software/dp/8119847709/) • This channel was earlier named LUSWIG (Let Us See Where It Goes). We used to start with a topic, mostly technology-oriented, with the idea, 'Let Us See Where It Goes!' Now we tend to stay closer to the topics related to EEBO Metrics

All Platforms: • Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/luswig-let-us-see-where-it-goes/id1685928302 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@eebo-metrics • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4I4necoezPS7LakktKAZmv • Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/98b87b3f-3b47-4086-a4ec-36b3a2fd3b0d

About: • Views expressed are our own and do not necessarily reflect that of our employers • Dinker Charak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinkercharak - https://www.ddiinnxx.com • Sachin Dharmapurikar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmapurikar

We have a guest - Santosh Mahale, an Engineering leader from Thoughtworks. We start by talking about Internal Developer Platform and listen in where the conversation went from there.

All Platforms: • Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/luswig-let-us-see-where-it-goes/id1685928302 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@luswig • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4I4necoezPS7LakktKAZmv • Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/98b87b3f-3b47-4086-a4ec-36b3a2fd3b0d

About: • Views expressed are our own and do not necessarily reflect that of our employer • Santosh Mahale - https://www.linkedin.com/in/santosh-mahale-149a303/ • Dinker Charak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinkercharak - https://www.ddiinnxx.com - https://notionpress.com/read/proma • Sachin Dharmapurikar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmapurikar

A technologist and a product manager wonder if "bug open rate" is a good fitness metric or not.

All Platforms: • Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/luswig-let-us-see-where-it-goes/id1685928302 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@luswig • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4I4necoezPS7LakktKAZmv • Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/98b87b3f-3b47-4086-a4ec-36b3a2fd3b0d

About: • Views expressed are our own and do not necessarily reflect that of our employer • Dinker Charak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinkercharak - https://www.ddiinnxx.com - https://notionpress.com/read/proma • Sachin Dharmapurikar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmapurikar

A technologist and a product manager talk about how-to and importance of modeling metrics right.

All Platforms: • YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@luswig • Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/luswig-let-us-see-where-it-goes/id1685928302 • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4I4necoezPS7LakktKAZmv • Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/98b87b3f-3b47-4086-a4ec-36b3a2fd3b0d

About: • Views expressed are our own and do not necessarily reflect that of our employer • Dinker Charak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinkercharak - https://www.ddiinnxx.com - https://notionpress.com/read/proma • Sachin Dharmapurikar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmapurikar

A technologist and a product manager talk about a scenario where Tech was doing well, but business is complaining. How EEBO Metrics could have helped?

Notes & Mentions: • https://www.eebo.org

Sachin & Dinker share the 9 conversations that molded the EEBO Metrics concept. Watch on YouTube at https://youtu.be/ikT5iufYXA0

https://www.eebo.org/ • https://www.thoughtworks.com/insights/blog/engineering-effectiveness/engineering-powering-business-growth • https://www.thoughtworks.com/en-in/insights/blog/dysfunctional-metrics-kill-agile-transformations-0