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Data Center Richness

Data Center Richness

By: Rich Miller
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Data Center Richness brings you expert insights on the world of data centers, cloud computing and AI infrastructure. Join respected industry expert Rich Miller for conversations that will help you understand the fast-moving world of digital infrastructure, and what it means to you. Rich Miller is a journalist and analyst who has been tracking the data center industry for more than 25 years, explaining how data centers are central to the Internet, the AI revolution, and the energy transition. Rich founded and led two of the sector's leading publications (Data Center Frontier and Data Center Knowledge), and his insights have been featured in major media including CNN, The Wall Street Journal, Wired, and The New York Times. We bring you interviews with the top thought leaders and innovators building the digital economy. These conversations are particularly relevant for data center professionals and those in the energy industry, exploring the road ahead for AI infrastructure.2025 Politics & Government
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  • How Aligned is Tackling Data Center Density
    Aug 12 2025

    Cooling is a hot topic in the data center industry. Few companies have been more focused on cooling than Aligned Data Centers, which builds hyperscale facilities for some of the world's leading players in cloud computing and AI.

    Our guest today is Michael Welch, the Chef Technology Officer at Aligned, who discusses how Aligned is updating its products and designs for the rising densities in AI workloads, and why an advanced cooling lab is an important part of the company’s strategy.

    Data Center Richness host Rich Miller and Michael Welch discuss the following topics:

    00:00 - Intro: Cooling is a Hot Topic

    00:52 - Meet Michael Welch and an overview of Aligned Data Centers

    03:50 - The State of Data Center Cooling

    08:00 - The Delta Cubed and Delta Flow systems

    11:00 - Hybrid Environments: Air Cooling and Liquid Cooling, Working Together

    16:42 - The Aligned Advanced Cooling Lab

    20:33 - How Higher Density Can Enabl;e Server Waste Heat Reuse

    23:50 - On-Site Power and the Future of Energy

    26:00 - The Improving Economics of Fuel Calls and BESS (Battery Energy Storage Systems)

    28:08 - How Aligned Optimizes its Supply Chain

    31:25 - The Supply Chain in the Gigawatt Era

    35:05 - The Road Ahead: Designing for Bigger, Denser Data Centers

    At Data Center Richness we demystify technology and explain why data centers matter, and what comes next for the Internet, cloud computing and AI. Host Rich Miller is a journalist and analyst who has been covering the data center sector for 25 years.

    Subscribe to our channel for more insights:
    https://www.youtube.com/@DataCenterRichness?sub_confirmation=1

    On the Web:
    Data Center Richness
    https://datacenterpodcast.com/

    LINKS FROM THIS SHOW:

    Aligned Data Centers
    https://aligneddc.com/

    Inside Aligned's Advanced Cooling Lab
    https://youtu.be/-aq_uVdZ6eA?si=Q4wTNvTYlLNA4lfy

    Follow Michael Welch on LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-welch-0a7b092b/

    Follow Rich Miller on LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/datacenterfrontier/

    RELATED VIDEOS:

    A Closer Look at Two-Phase Liquid Cooling
    https://youtu.be/w_Us94JgYzc

    How Will Data Centers Be Different in 2030
    https://youtu.be/IUO8fUWNoX8?si=QjhHEBlvx3fMR0Z

    All video by Data Center Richness.

    Supplemental music via Epidemic Sound https://share.epidemicsound.com/60o8qx

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    41 mins
  • What's Next for Data Center Investing?
    Jul 24 2025

    Large global investors have played a major role in the AI boom, providing funding for the construction of data centers and network infrastructure.

    Today we look at data centers through the perspective of investors, How do large private investors think about data centers as an asset class? What trends do they consider in their investment strategies? Which markets are the most attractive? And how do they think about opportunity and risk in a fast-moving market?

    Rich Miller's guest today is Michael Hochanadel, the Managing Director and Head of Digital Assets at Harrison Street. Michael has been an investor in the sector for 20 years, and shares his insights about how investors assess different types of properties and business models, and what the next phase of AI-powered growth might look like.

    CHAPTERS:

    00:00 - The Investor Perspective on the Data Center Sector

    01:37 - Introduction to Michael and his career

    03:25 - Background on Harrison Street

    07:15 - The Themes Guiding Harrison Street’s Data Center Strategy

    12:30 - Harrison Street’s digital infrastructure investments - PowerHouse, 1547, Oppidan and Summit IG

    15:40 - How network architecture creates investment opportunities

    17:45 - The state of the Enterprise data center market. What’s next?

    21:30 - AI and Infrastructure: How will the rise of inference shape th enetwork?

    27:00 - AI use cases could be “limitless.” Michael shares some early winners.

    30:15 - Assessing investment risk in a rapidly evolving AI landscape

    At Data Center Richness we demystify technology and explain why data centers matter, and what comes next for the Internet, cloud computing and AI. Host Rich Miller is a journalist and analyst who has been covering the data center sector for 25 years. Subscribe to our channel for more insights:

    On YouTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/@DataCenterRichness?sub_confirmation=1

    On the Web:
    Data Center Richness https://datacenterpodcast.com/

    LINKS FROM THIS SHOW:

    Michael Hochanadel Bio
    https://harrisonst.com/people/michael-hochanadel/

    Michael on LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hochanadel-767380/

    Harrison Street
    https://harrisonst.com/

    RELATED VIDEO:

    What's Next for Data Center Real Estate?
    https://youtu.be/H2FFJfm5wug?si=RI-9sGUGGbzmE4qh

    How Will Data Centers Be Different in 2030
    https://youtu.be/IUO8fUWNoX8?si=QjhHEBlvx3fMR0Z

    Why Data Centers Matter in the Age of AI
    https://youtu.be/9GJSENgbcmk?si=lkeyM8AiseP1v99t

    DISCLAIMER: The information provided in this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only, and does not constitute investment advice or any other professional advice. Please consult with a professional for specific advice tailored to your situation.

    Supplemental music via Epidemic Sound https://share.epidemicsound.com/60o8qx

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    37 mins
  • Chris Crosby: Upgrading the Data Center Supply Chain
    Jul 15 2025

    Chris Crosby has deep insights on essential the role of data centers in an AI-powered future. Crosby is the CEO of Compass Datacenters, which builds some of the world’s largest data center campuses.

    In this week's Data Center Richness episode, host Rich Miller talks with Crosby about how Compass has embraced new approaches to power and the supply chain, as well as sustainable construction and backup power. Crosby also shares about Compass' adoption of HVO (hydrogenated vegetable oil), a lower-emissions diesel fuel, and the company's current project to convert the former Sears Headquarters near Chicago into a massive data center campus.

    But for Crosby, the success at Compass all comes down to company culture and building great teams.

    Highlights:

    00:00 - Overview from host Rich Miller

    02:00 - The role of digital infrastructure in an AI-powered world

    03:30 - Solving power constraints impacting AI growth

    07:45 - Load flexibility as a Pathway to Power

    11:15 - The role of capital in fixing the grid

    15:00 - How to address utility power queues

    17:45 - How do data centers make flexibility work?

    20:25 - Rethinking the data center supply chain

    23:15 - The power of company culture in building great teams

    27:45 - Bringing new talent into the data center industry

    30:05 - How Compass thinks about sustainability

    32:15 - Leading the way on adoption of HVO (low-emission generator fuel)

    34:30 - Converting the Sears HQ campus into a huge data center

    37:00 - The role of data center retrofits and adaptive reuse

    38:25 - Data centers and community relations

    41:00 - Data centers and the opportunity ahead

    At Data Center Richness we demystify technology and explain why data centers matter, and what comes next for the Internet, cloud computing and AI. Host Rich Miller is a journalist and analyst who has been covering the data center sector for 25 years.

    Subscribe to our channel for more insights:

    On the Web: Data Center Richness
    https://datacenterpodcast.com/

    LINKS FROM THIS SHOW:

    Compass Datacenters
    https://www.compassdatacenters.com/

    Compass Culture: Core Convictions
    https://www.compassdatacenters.com/about/

    Sears HQ to Become a Data Center https://www.datacenterfrontier.com/hyperscale/article/55089460/suburban-chicago-welcomes-compass-datacenters-major-hyperscale-development-on-legacy-sears-hq-site

    Chris Crosby on LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-crosby-3542b71/

    RELATED VIDEO:

    Flexibility: The Key to Unlocking More Data Center Power
    https://youtu.be/D6-1QxRRxoA?si=0Zf8leFTQJ28ZlTg

    How Will Data Centers Be Different in 2030
    https://youtu.be/IUO8fUWNoX8?si=QjhHEBlvx3fMR0Z-

    Verrus is Rethinking the Data Center
    https://youtu.be/x9OoLh8UEoc?si=mINiJlqSCMmX1ejJ

    Supplemental music via Epidemic Sound https://share.epidemicsound.com/60o8qx

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    44 mins
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