Bob and Jen Bevan are a married couple from Cleveland, Tennessee — 29 years in, two kids, three grandchildren, and owners of Witt's Frozen Custard. What they didn't expect was that the path to real connection would run straight through the Core Emotion Wheel. In this episode, Bob and Jen share what it was like to enter Connection Codes from very different starting points — Jen as a certified coach, Bob as a self-described "highly recovering codependent" — and what happened when they finally had language for what was breaking them apart. From Jen's raw confession that shame felt like a knife telling her she couldn't exist, to Bob's discovery that he hadn't been able to access "lonely" for decades, this episode is for every couple who wanted to love each other better but didn't know how.

Key topics covered:

• Why one partner going first in Connection Codes doesn't have to mean the other gets left behind
• What codependency does to your ability to feel your own emotions
• Shame as a barrier to coming out of hiding — especially in church culture
• The difference between drowning in emotion and processing it
• Bob's story of doing the Core Emotion Wheel with his son after a major fight — for the very first time
• Glenn's "relationships require depth, not time" reframe
• Jen's breakthrough: "To feel is to connect — with people, and with God"

Guest bio:Bob and Jen Bevan are based in Cleveland, Tennessee, where they run Witt's Frozen Custard and stay deeply embedded in church community. Bob brings 25 years of pastoral experience and a psychology degree; Jen is a Connection Codes certified coach. Together, they're proof that the tools work — even when you come in from two totally different directions.

Resources & CTAs:

• 🎡 Free Core Emotion Wheel → connectioncodes.co/wheel
• 🏅 Certified Coaching → connectioncodes.co/coaches
• 📚 Foundations Masterclass → connectioncodes.co/foundations

What happens when a man who was wired for achievement — not emotion — finally says out loud that he's afraid? For Mitchell Osmond, it took four years of marriage, a near-divorce, and a funeral to find out. In this episode, Tera sits down with Mitchell, host of the Dad Nation podcast and coach to high-performing men, for a conversation that goes deep into what it actually looks like when a man chooses emotional connection over self-protection. Mitchell shares his SORRY apology framework, the "story I'm telling myself" tool, and what happened when he stopped being a robot — and his wife noticed immediately.IN THIS EPISODE:→ Why men tell you what they did instead of how they feel — and how to break that pattern→ Mitchell's SORRY framework: a five-step apology that actually lands and can't easily be weaponized→ The "story I'm telling myself" tool for short-circuiting conflict before it spirals→ How shame — not just pride — can keep us from reconnecting after a rupture→ A live Core Emotion Wheel walk-through with Mitchell sharing real-time vulnerability on all 8 emotions→ Why Mitchell believes: when a dad gets better, the whole family winsABOUT MITCHELL OSMOND:Mitchell is the host of the Dad Nation podcast and founder of a coaching practice dedicated to helping high-performing men win at home like they do at work. After turning his own life around — from near-divorce, 60 pounds overweight, and $100K in debt to a fully restored marriage and family — he now helps the man he used to be. Find him at dadnationco.com or on Instagram.RESOURCES MENTIONED:→ Core Emotion Wheel (free download): connectioncodes.co/wheel → Certified coaching: connectioncodes.co/coaches→ Foundations Masterclass: connectioncodes.co/foundations→ Dad Nation Podcast & Coaching: dadnationco.com

What does it look like to lead hundreds of people every week — and have no idea you're quietly breaking down inside your own marriage?

Hiubert and Xiomara are Connection Codes certified coaches,former associate pastors, worship leaders, and evangelists who spent nearly twodecades in ministry. From the outside, everything looked like it was working.On the inside, they were burned out, emotionally disconnected, and — withoutknowing it — grieving separately in a marriage that had no language for whatthey were carrying.

In this episode, Dr. Glenn and Phyllis Hill sit down withHiubert and Xiomara to hear the whole story: how two miscarriages exposed agrief they'd never named together, how Hiubert moved from dismissing emotionsas weakness to going on what he calls a "repentance tour" witheveryone he'd ever led, and how the Core Emotion Wheel and Connection Codescourses gave them the tools to become not just a healthier couple — but moreconnected, trusted leaders.

Their story doesn't stop at their own front door. Within weeksof learning the Core Wheel, they were on a stage in Mexico City teaching it inSpanish. They've since brought Connection Codes to communities across the US,Mexico, Ethiopia, and beyond — because, as Hiubert says, good news is worthtelling.

This conversation is for the leader who is exhausted fromholding everyone else together. For the couple that talks about hard thingslike logistics. For the pastor who thinks emotions are a sign of weak faith.And for anyone who has ever said: I had no idea they were hurting too.

In This Episode

• Why ministry burnout is an emotional health crisis thathides behind visible success

• How Xiomara was in a decade-long depression she didn'thave words for — and where she finally found them

• The moment they did the Core Wheel about theirmiscarriages for the first time — and what Hiubert had been carrying alone

• Hiubert's "repentance tour" — goingback to every person he'd ever led and apologizing

• How giving your congregation the Core Wheel might bethe most disarming leadership move you have

• Why the Core Wheel reduces decision fatigue and burnoutfor leaders — not just couples

• The biblical case for emotional expression: Job's 37chapters of being "oohed" by God

• What happened when a pastor did the Core Wheel in frontof his entire congregation

• The first Connection Coders in Bolivia — and what theywept when told their emotions were allowed

• A live Core Wheel demonstration with Hiubert andXiomara at the end of the episode

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Resources

Get the Core Emotion Wheel → www.connectioncodes.co/podcast

Book a Connection Codes Coach → connectioncodes.co/coaches

Work with Hiubert & Xiomara (Spanish-speaking coachreferrals) → connectioncodes.co/coaches

Xiomara’s Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/hixio/

Hiubert’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hiubertzamora/

Late Night Course → connectioncodes.co/late-night

Foundations Course → connectioncodes.co/foundations