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Clever with Amy Devers

Clever with Amy Devers

By: Amy Devers
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Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us.

In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to unearth the gritty, authentic and sometimes surprising details of their creative paths.


Clever Confidential is Clever’s offshoot series where we dig into the lesser told stories of the darker side of design; the shadowy, sometimes sordid, tales hiding under a glossy top coat of respectable legacy.


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Episodes
  • Ep. 231: True-Crime Podcaster Stephanie Tinsley on Everything They Missed
    Nov 18 2025

    When her life collided with a high-profile murder trial, longtime true-crime devotee Stephanie Tinsley found an unexpected path into creative agency and advocacy. After a career in sales and private equity, everything shifted when her husband, attorney Mark Tinsley, was thrust into the spotlight during the Murdaugh murder trials. In this episode, she and Amy discuss the making of Everything They Missed, the inner resources she had to marshal to tell the story well, and why centering human dignity is her driving force in true-crime storytelling.


    Images and more from Stephanie Tinsley on our website!


    Special thanks to our sponsor: Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.


    Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers, with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven.


    SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app!

    SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts

    VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes

    SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers


    Special thanks to our sponsors!

    • Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Ep. 230: SVA’s Molly Heintz on Why Design Writing Matters
    Nov 4 2025

    Molly Heintz grew up fascinated with Greek mythology, and eventually, fashion – drawn to enthralling storytelling and visual aesthetics. She carried this interest in Greek mythology over to studying archeology but when she became burned out in academia, she transitioned to work as a fashion editor, setting her on an entirely new careerpath. From there, she worked in marketing and communications, eventually co-founding Superscript and teaching at SVA, chairing the Masters of Arts in Design Research, Writing & Criticism program. Together with Steven Heller, she’s co-edited The Education of a Design Writer to showcase exemplary design writing and share practical advice for writers. Molly makes a compelling case for why design writing is essential for the design process, and for understanding the world around us.


    Images and more from Molly Heintz on cleverpodcast.com!


    Special thanks to our sponsor! Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.


    Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers, with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven.


    SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app!

    SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts

    VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes

    SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers



    Special thanks to our sponsors!

    • Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.
    • Future London Academy - If you’re ready to grow your business, elevate your influence and become the leader the future needs, enroll now. Learn more: https://fla.wiki/4hQL1oR

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    49 mins
  • Clever Confidential Ep. 4: Olivetti and the Race to Create the First Personal Computer [encore]
    Oct 28 2025

    Clever Confidential is Clever’s offshoot series, where we dig into the darker side of design–the shadowy, sometimes sordid tales hiding under a glossy topcoat of respectable legacy.


    In Episode 4: Before Silicon Valley, there was Olivetti—an Italian design powerhouse on the brink of changing the world. But just as their revolutionary computer neared completion, tragedy struck.

    Visionary leader Adriano Olivetti and brilliant engineer Mario Tchou both died suddenly, their deaths cloaked in secrecy and Cold War paranoia. What really happened to them—and who stood to gain?

    Host Amy Devers and writer Andrew Wagner follow the trail of innovation, betrayal, and buried history to uncover how a company destined to shape the digital age was silenced... and why its story was nearly erased.

    Check out images of the Programma 101 and more about Olivetti on cleverpodcast.com


    Special thanks to our sponsor: Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.


    Many thanks to our guest expert Barry Katz.

    Audio clips courtesy of Luca Cottini - Italian Innovators youtube video - CAMILLO & ADRIANO OLIVETTI. At the Origins of the Computer Age. Linkedin and instagram @italianinnovators


    Writing and research: Amy Devers, Andrew Wagner, Ilana Nevins

    Editing and Sound Design: Camille Stennis and Mark Zurawinski

    Theme Music: “Astronomy” by Thin White Rope courtesy of Frontier Records


    SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app!

    SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts

    VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes

    SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers


    Special thanks to our sponsors!

    • Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    38 mins
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