We’re back for Season 3 of the Clean Heart Club Podcast—and I couldn’t think of a better way to start than by welcoming back my pastor and friend, Kevin Colclasure.

You loved our last conversation with Kevin, and this time we’re diving into a topic he’s been preaching and living: spiritual disciplines—the practices Jesus modeled that help us grow in holiness and become more like Him.

In this rich and practical conversation, we talk about:

• What spiritual disciplines are (and what they’re not)

• Why Sabbath rest might be harder than it sounds

• The difference between being a Christian and being a follower of Christ

• How practices like prayer, Scripture, solitude, and fasting shape us over time

• Why holiness is an invitation, not a “holier-than-thou” attitude

• How God transforms us as we simply spend time with Him

Kevin also shares his own journey of learning (and sometimes struggling!) to practice disciplines like Sabbath, journaling, and fasting—and why it’s worth starting small.

If you’ve ever wondered how to deepen your walk with Jesus in your everyday life—or if you’ve struggled to make time for God in the busyness of the world—this episode will encourage and challenge you in the best way.

Resources & Mentions:

• The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer

• Practicing the Way by John Mark Comer

• Dallas Willard’s teaching on discipleship and spiritual disciplines

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Welcome back to the Clean Heart Club! Today, Susan has a truly inspiring conversation with Deanna Leonard—a creative coach, artist, speaker, and retired corporate executive whose journey will move and motivate you.

Deanna shares how she went from a high-powered corporate career (including an MBA from Duke and global travel) to early retirement, surviving a stroke, and reinventing herself as a creative leader helping other women embrace new technology (including AI!) to rediscover their own artistic spark.

This episode is packed with honesty, wisdom, and laughter. Get ready to feel both challenged and encouraged to live at the pace of grace.

Resources Mentioned:

• She Is AI: Global movement helping women find their voice and tools for life

• Creative Event Magazine: Where Deanna’s art was featured and toured Europe before landing in Times Square

• • Rest and Build by Cynthia White
    The War of Art by Steven Pressfield

  
  

  Meet Deanna:

  As a LinkedIn Top 100 AI Creative, I bring a unique blend of high-energy storytelling and 20+ years of leadership experience to every stage and boardroom. I empower businesses and women to harness AI strategically, transforming toplines, bottom lines, and everything in between. Through my work with SHE IS AI, I’m on a mission to help a million women worldwide unlock the transformative power of inclusive, ethical, and human-centered AI. Whether it’s my keynote on “Tech Couture” at UNC or my talk on when EI meets AI, or my consulting with leading brands, I bridge the gap between cutting-edge AI tools and real-world business impact. Let’s turn innovation and creativity into actionable growth together. And let’s learn the value of living at the pace of grace.

  
  

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In this powerful and heartfelt episode, Susan sits down with singer-songwriter, coach, and author Cassie Fowler for a conversation that will stir your heart and strengthen your courage. Cassie shares her personal story of navigating depression, anxiety, and burnout, and how God met her in the hard places to bring healing and purpose.

Cassie performs her original song Even If — a beautiful reminder of God’s faithfulness in uncertain seasons. She also unpacks the lessons she’s learned from writing her book Courageous Identity, coaching others, and facing personal fears of rejection.

From battling the “I should disappear” lie to stepping boldly into God’s calling, Cassie offers rich encouragement for anyone standing at the edge of something hard — whether it’s writing a book, pursuing a dream, or simply taking the next step. You’ll hear about emotional regulation, living outside your comfort zone, people-pleasing, spiritual growth, and the invitation to encounter God’s real and beautiful presence in every season.

Some of the beautiful takeaways from Cassie’s story:

• "Showing up as my authentic self gives others permission to show up for themselves."

• The difference between I want to → I will → I must when pursuing big goals

• Choosing excitement over fear

• How to sit with anxiety rather than react to it

• The difference between compassion and codependency

• Letting go of needing permission and fully stepping into God-given freedom
  

🎶 Special Feature: Cassie debuts her original song Even If — don’t miss this beautiful moment of worship and vulnerability.

Connect with Cassie: Cassie’s book Courageous Identity is in the works — stay tuned for its release! 🎤 You can find her singing karaoke or leading worship — she’s a creative through and through!

Resources Mentioned:

• Life Mentoring School by Dr. Edie Wadsworth

• Brilliant Perspectives podcast by Graham Cooke

• Dallas Willard on apprenticeship with Jesus
  

A Word for the Listener: Wherever you are in your hard thing, may Cassie’s journey remind you: you don’t need permission to become who God made you to be. Freedom is already yours. 🌿

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What makes someone pack up their Ford Escort, grab their sled dog, and drive solo to Alaska without ever having set foot there? Faith. Grit.

In this unforgettable episode, I sit down with my friend and fellow writer Cathy Brooks, an Alaskan author who has lived an extraordinary life—from dairy farm roots in rural Pennsylvania to off-the-grid wilderness living with babies and 25 sled dogs (yes, really). Her story is full of courage, hardship, and the unmistakable faithfulness of God.

We talk about:

• What it’s really like to live in interior Alaska
  

• The spiritual strength it takes to endure isolation
  

• Hearing the sound of the Northern Lights
  

• Raising babies in the wilderness
  

• The historical wounds of the Church in Alaska—and the hope of healing
  

• Why processing pain matters—and how her book Sirens helps others begin
  

Whether you're navigating a wilderness of your own or simply curious what it looks like to live an our-of-the-ordinary life, Cathy’s story will move you deeply.

Resources & Links:

• 📚 Sirens by Kathy Brooks → [Sirens]
  💻 Kathy’s website: www.write22.com

  
  

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What do sports, mowing the lawn, and forgiveness have to do with living a life for Christ? In this deeply personal and powerful conversation, Susan sits down with her longtime pastor, Kevin Colclasure, to talk about his journey from small-town athlete to faithful minister of the gospel. With stories of heartache, healing, and hope, Kevin reminds us that God can use every part of our lives—our passions, our pain, and even our personality—to draw others closer to Him.You’ll hear:How Kevin’s competitive nature became a vehicle for ministryHis story of reconciling with his father after years of estrangementWhy forgiveness is often a long, layered journeyHow his wife’s cancer diagnosis reshaped his priorities and deepened his faithThe verse that carried him through the hardest seasonsWhy he believes there’s nothing God can’t redeem or use for His gloryWhether you’re a coach, a parent, a prayer warrior, or someone in the messy middle of waiting, this episode will encourage you to stay the course and trust that God is working in ways you can’t yet see.🕊️ Bonus: Kevin shares the gospel message clearly and beautifully for anyone who’s wondering what this good news is all about.Kevin Colclasure is the lead minister at Scott Avenue Christian Church in Newton, Illinois, where he’s served since 2014. A graduate of St. Louis Christian College with a degree in Christian Education and a minor in Youth Ministry, Kevin has been in ministry for over three decades. He and his wife Leah have been married for nearly 38 years and have two married children and four beloved grandchildren. A small-town Illinois native, Kevin loves sports, the outdoors, and a good peanut butter and jelly sandwich. His life verse is Philippians 3:14: “I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.”Upward Bound Basketball Camp: https://registration.upward.org/UPW87984Meet SusanHi! Thank you for being here! I'm a farmwife, Mom and Grammie to 7 sweeties, and a Christian Life Coach. I love Jesus, and want the world to know HIM. My life's mission is to help other women walk in wellness - body, mind, and spirit. Let's Connect!Free Clean Heart Club Facebook Group Clean Heart Club CourseClean Heart Club Thought Guide⁠1:1 Christian Life Coaching⁠⁠ InstagramFacebook YouTube

What does it mean to build a life you actually love living—body, mind, and spirit?

In this fun and practical episode, I’m joined by my friend Jeni Coppage—nutrition coach, life coach, and fellow faith-filled encourager. Jenny and I go way back to our Life Mentoring School coach certification days where our friendship began. In this episode, we talk all about what it means to care for our health, honor our commitments, and stretch our capacity—one small habit at a time.

We talk about:

• Jeni’s journey through nutrition coaching, mindset work, and her LiveWell 45 program

• Why building capacity starts with keeping tiny promises to yourself (yes, even flossing!)

• How faith and health go hand-in-hand

• The brain science of change, including rewiring your thoughts and habits

• Saying yes to scary goals (like hiking 26.2 miles in the desert!)

• Color analysis, shopping smarter, and feeling good in your skin

• Raising adult children, reading the Bible, and what the book of James says about our words

This episode will encourage you, challenge you, and remind you that you really can become the woman you want to be—with God’s help and some steady, small steps.

Mentioned in this episode:

• LiveWell 45 by Jenny Kopi

• Clean Up Your Mental Mess by Dr. Caroline Leaf

• Color analysis via House of Colour

• Life Mentoring School

• The Bible Recap, The Bible App, and Sacred Treasures

• Galatians 5:1, James 3, Romans 12:2

Meet Jeni:

Jeni Coppage is a certified Christian Life Coach and Nutrition Coach who helps midlife women take control of their emotional and physical health so they can create a life they love. With a background in both mindset and nutrition coaching, she offers a unique, flexible approach that doesn’t require perfection—just progress. Whether it’s building confidence, burning fat, or breaking old patterns, she empowers women to reach their goals with clarity, consistency, and grace.

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What happens when your life takes a totally different path than you expected—but ends up exactly where God meant you to be? In this episode, I talk with my friend Denise about growing up as a missionary kid in the Philippines, her early dreams of following in those footsteps, and how God gently rerouted her calling. From launching a cookie business to coaching business leaders, Denise shares her story with honesty, warmth, and wisdom. It’s a conversation about listening to God, letting go of plans, and trusting that He’s always doing something good—even when it’s not what you pictured.Meet Denise:Denise Nowell is passionate about growing leaders. With 15+ years building partnerships and driving economic impact through local Chambers of Commerce, she has a proven ability to cast vision and lead through collaboration.Reared in the Philippines, Denise speaks two Filipino languages and attributes her passion for connecting with others to her third culture worldview.She holds a Bachelor of Science degree from High Point University, and is an alumnus of the Institute for Organization Management, a leadership program for non-profit executives.As a Certified Working Genius facilitator, Denise helps teams leverage cohesion while increasing productivity.In 2023 she launched Journey Mentoring™ LLC, a Christ-centered Executive Leadership Coaching program that mentors women who want to live transformed lives and change their world.

She is a Senior Advisor with mpact3, a boutique business development firm that partners with Kingdom-minded entrepreneurial organizations to createthriving businesses and cultures focused on purpose, performance, and team health.Denise and her husband Stan call North Carolina home. Together they enjoy biking, hiking, camping and traveling, and are well-connected with their faith, family at Providence Church in Raleigh.Meet SusanHi! Thank you for being here! I'm a farmwife, Mom and Grammie to 7 sweeties, and a Christian Life Coach. I love Jesus, and want the world to know HIM. My life's mission is to help other women walk in wellness - body, mind, and spirit. Let's Connect!Free Clean Heart Club Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/morningexhaleClean Heart Club Coursehttps://clean-heart-club.teachable.com/p/clean-heart-clubClean Heart Club Thought Guideclean-heart-club.teachable.com/p/clean-club-thought-guide-721070Instagram https://www.instagram.com/avintagefarmwife/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/morningexhaleYouTube https://www.youtube.com/@susanshull2010⁠1:1 Christian Life Coaching⁠ https://www.subscribepage.com/privatecoachingwithsusan

Meet Katie

Katie Pearson is founder of Be New, a ministry focused on equipping and encouraging followers of Jesus through Life and Leadership Coaching. In addition, her callings include Master Yoga Teacher Trainer for nearly 25 years and instructing yoga students of every background and ability through numerous studios, gyms and ministries. She is currently Spiritual Formation Director at her church, Cross Sound, on Bainbridge Island, in Washington State. While she loves writing, speaking, and "retreating" with Jesus and friends, her greatest passion is her family, which includes four adult children and her beloved husband, Kevin. You can learn more about Katie on her website at www.benewlifestyle.com.

Email Katie: katie@benewlifestyle.com www.livingsoulinstitute.com.

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Hi! Thank you for being here! I'm a farmwife, Mom and Grammie to 7 sweeties, and a Christian Life Coach. I love Jesus, and want the world to know HIM. My life's mission is to help other women walk in wellness - body, mind, and spirit.

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