We’re back for Season 3 of the Clean Heart Club Podcast—and I couldn’t think of a better way to start than by welcoming back my pastor and friend, Kevin Colclasure.

You loved our last conversation with Kevin, and this time we’re diving into a topic he’s been preaching and living: spiritual disciplines—the practices Jesus modeled that help us grow in holiness and become more like Him.

In this rich and practical conversation, we talk about:

• What spiritual disciplines are (and what they’re not)

• Why Sabbath rest might be harder than it sounds

• The difference between being a Christian and being a follower of Christ

• How practices like prayer, Scripture, solitude, and fasting shape us over time

• Why holiness is an invitation, not a “holier-than-thou” attitude

• How God transforms us as we simply spend time with Him

Kevin also shares his own journey of learning (and sometimes struggling!) to practice disciplines like Sabbath, journaling, and fasting—and why it’s worth starting small.

If you’ve ever wondered how to deepen your walk with Jesus in your everyday life—or if you’ve struggled to make time for God in the busyness of the world—this episode will encourage and challenge you in the best way.

Resources & Mentions:

• The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer

• Practicing the Way by John Mark Comer

• Dallas Willard’s teaching on discipleship and spiritual disciplines

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Welcome back to the Clean Heart Club! Today, Susan has a truly inspiring conversation with Deanna Leonard—a creative coach, artist, speaker, and retired corporate executive whose journey will move and motivate you.

Deanna shares how she went from a high-powered corporate career (including an MBA from Duke and global travel) to early retirement, surviving a stroke, and reinventing herself as a creative leader helping other women embrace new technology (including AI!) to rediscover their own artistic spark.

This episode is packed with honesty, wisdom, and laughter. Get ready to feel both challenged and encouraged to live at the pace of grace.

Resources Mentioned:

• She Is AI: Global movement helping women find their voice and tools for life

• Creative Event Magazine: Where Deanna’s art was featured and toured Europe before landing in Times Square

• • Rest and Build by Cynthia White
    The War of Art by Steven Pressfield

  
  

  Meet Deanna:

  As a LinkedIn Top 100 AI Creative, I bring a unique blend of high-energy storytelling and 20+ years of leadership experience to every stage and boardroom. I empower businesses and women to harness AI strategically, transforming toplines, bottom lines, and everything in between. Through my work with SHE IS AI, I’m on a mission to help a million women worldwide unlock the transformative power of inclusive, ethical, and human-centered AI. Whether it’s my keynote on “Tech Couture” at UNC or my talk on when EI meets AI, or my consulting with leading brands, I bridge the gap between cutting-edge AI tools and real-world business impact. Let’s turn innovation and creativity into actionable growth together. And let’s learn the value of living at the pace of grace.

  
  

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  Meet Susan

  Hi! Thank you for being here! I'm a farmwife, Mom and Grammie to 7 sweeties, and a Christian Life Coach. I love Jesus, and want the world to know HIM. My life's mission is to help other women walk in wellness - body, mind, and spirit.

  
  

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In this powerful and heartfelt episode, Susan sits down with singer-songwriter, coach, and author Cassie Fowler for a conversation that will stir your heart and strengthen your courage. Cassie shares her personal story of navigating depression, anxiety, and burnout, and how God met her in the hard places to bring healing and purpose.

Cassie performs her original song Even If — a beautiful reminder of God’s faithfulness in uncertain seasons. She also unpacks the lessons she’s learned from writing her book Courageous Identity, coaching others, and facing personal fears of rejection.

From battling the “I should disappear” lie to stepping boldly into God’s calling, Cassie offers rich encouragement for anyone standing at the edge of something hard — whether it’s writing a book, pursuing a dream, or simply taking the next step. You’ll hear about emotional regulation, living outside your comfort zone, people-pleasing, spiritual growth, and the invitation to encounter God’s real and beautiful presence in every season.

Some of the beautiful takeaways from Cassie’s story:

• "Showing up as my authentic self gives others permission to show up for themselves."

• The difference between I want to → I will → I must when pursuing big goals

• Choosing excitement over fear

• How to sit with anxiety rather than react to it

• The difference between compassion and codependency

• Letting go of needing permission and fully stepping into God-given freedom
  

🎶 Special Feature: Cassie debuts her original song Even If — don’t miss this beautiful moment of worship and vulnerability.

Connect with Cassie: Cassie’s book Courageous Identity is in the works — stay tuned for its release! 🎤 You can find her singing karaoke or leading worship — she’s a creative through and through!

Resources Mentioned:

• Life Mentoring School by Dr. Edie Wadsworth

• Brilliant Perspectives podcast by Graham Cooke

• Dallas Willard on apprenticeship with Jesus
  

A Word for the Listener: Wherever you are in your hard thing, may Cassie’s journey remind you: you don’t need permission to become who God made you to be. Freedom is already yours. 🌿

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