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Cider Chat

Cider Chat

By: Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist
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Interviewing cidermakers importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let’s delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!© Cider Chat 2014- 2025 Art Cooking Food & Wine Social Sciences Travel Writing & Commentary
Episodes
  • 460: James B. Forbes on Little Pomona’s Ciders & Legacy
    May 21 2025

    An intimate sit down with James Forbes of Little Pomona to talk about grief of losing his wife and business partner Susanna Forbes, the growth of the cidery, and the evolving identity of one this select cidery.

    Remembering Susanna Forbes

    Susanna Forbes, co-founder of Little Pomona, passed away in 2024. Her warmth, encouragement, and belief in others shaped the cidery from day one. As James puts it,

    “She was always trying to build up and support others – including me.”

    James, Ria and Susanna 2019 What’s New at Little Pomona
    • Champagne Method Quince Wine – Possibly the second of its kind globally, due this summer.
    • Champagne Method Egremont Russet – One of his favorite apples, now sparkling.
    • Keeved Ciders – A new path, with mixed results but promising bottles.
    • Distilled Projects – Collaborations with Capreolus and Pleasant Land to craft pommeau aged in chestnut barrels.
    • Annual Disco Nouveau – Returning with the 2022 and 2023 vintages.
    • Natural Yeast Ferments – Used throughout, except the second ferment in méthode champenoise.
    Where to Find Little Pomona
    • Hereford Beer House | Hereford
    • Museum of Cider | Hereford
    • Specialist shops in London, Manchester, and Glasgow
    • Press Then Press –
    • Select U.S. locations via Anxo (Washington D.C.)
    Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • Totally Cider Tours – UK Edition
    • Vermont and New York Cider Tour/Road Trip
      • 1000 Stone Farm
      • Saint Lawerence Nursery
      • Frosty Twig and Canton Apples
      • Pierrpont Cider
      • Inn at Lake Champlain

    Support #ciderGoingUP at Patreon

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    46 mins
  • 459: The Apple Finch’s Pet-Nats at de Groote Wei Cider | Netherlands
    May 14 2025
    Fourth-Generation Farmer, First-Generation Cidermaker

    Sophie Horstink of De Groote Wei, which means The Great Meadow in Dutch, is crafting Dutch cider as a value added project at her family’s farm. Located in the eastern Netherlands near Arnhem, the farm spans 16 hectares and has long produced dessert apples and pears.

    Sophie Horstink

    The Horstink family market is well-known and is a go-to place for locals to shop and would be considered a grocery store.

    She released her first cider in 2022. The early response was enthusiastic, selling out quickly and prompting her to scale production. She now ferments around 5,000 liters annually in what is called the ‘cider cave” on the family farm.

    De Groote Wei’s Ciders cider garden
    • Appel Vink (Apple Finch)
      • ABV: 6.5%
      • Notes: Lightly sparkling with fresh acidity and a hint of sourness. Made entirely from eating apples including Elstar, Jonagold, and Belle de Boskoop.
    • Groente Vink (Green Finch)
      • ABV: 6.5%
      • Notes: A blend of apples as used in the Appel Finch and 30% Conference pears. Also bottle-conditioned, this cider has a rounder mouthfeel and delicate fruit aromatics.
    Contact info for De Groote Wei
    • Website: https://www.degrootewei.nl
    Family Farm shop Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • VT & NY Cider Road Trip
    • Totally Cider Tours
    • SpaceTime Mead and Cider Works set to close June 22, 2025 – listen to the Space Time episode 288 with Dan Schreffler

    Support this podcast by becoming a patron!

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    55 mins
  • 458: Sodo Sidriné and the Rise of Lithuanian Craft Cider
    May 7 2025

    Donatas Genys didn’t set out to launch Lithuania’s first keeved cider. But after trips to England and Normandy, years of experimentation, and the planting of over 6,000 cider apple trees, that’s exactly what he’s doing. At Sodo Sidriné, located just a few kilometers from the city of Kaunus, Donatas is into a whole new era for cider Lithuania’s cider revival

    Donatas Genys Cider Culture and Baltic Roots

    Lithuania has deep agricultural roots, but apple trees which at many of the homes are desired more for eating or making apple wine while vodka and beer under Soviet rule flourished.

    Note: Lithuania declared its independence from the Soviet Union on March 11, 1990, becoming the first Soviet republic to do so, an act made possible in part by the loosening of Soviet control under Gorbachev’s Perestroika reforms.

    Donatas is using both local varieties like Auksis and imported cider apples such as Yarlington Mill, Harry Masters Jersey, and Marie Ménard. His orchard-first philosophy ensures every cider is estate grown and rooted in place.

    Keeving in Lithuania

    The hallmark of Sodo Sidrine’s offerings is a naturally keeved cider. Donatas showcased his keeved cider at CiderCon 2025 and received a lot of praise from attendees, including this Cider Chat Producer Ria Windcaller. Genys admits it’s the most labor-intensive process, but also the most rewarding. This method yields a semi-dry cider with natural sweetness and long-lasting complexity, a rarity in a country where most consumers only know industrial cider.

    A New Era for Lithuanian Cider

    With a production facility nearly complete, Genys is preparing to scale up. His vision includes:

    Sodo Cider
    • Stainless steel fermentation
    • A small tasting room with potential for expansion
    • Fruit wines and hopped ciders to appeal to a wider audience
    • Apple brandy aged in sherry casks for future release
    Inside Sodo Sidrine

    Despite legal gray areas (there’s no craft cider license in Lithuania), Donatas is pushing forward — blending tradition, research, and experimentation with quiet determination. He expects his licensing process to be completed by the summer of 2025. Stay tuned!

    Contact info for Sodo Sidriné
    • Website: https://sodosidrine.lt/
    Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • Totally Cider Tour_UK Edition
    • Bent Ladder | Doylestown Ohio – Events
    • Locust Grove Brewing – Mother’s Day Brunch – Live Music, Food Truck 11-2pm
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    56 mins

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