What if selling doesn't have to feel like convincing, and money doesn't have to feel like fighting? In this powerful conversation, Lisa Marie sits down with neuro-resilience specialist Kirstin Carey, who's built multiple six and seven-figure businesses over 30 years, all while healing from two autoimmune conditions and learning that success means nothing if burnout takes over.

Kirstin reveals why your relationship with money was locked in by age seven, how to shift from "convincing" to curiosity in sales, and why the energy you bring to money and sales conversations determines everything. Through raw stories and practical insights, this episode will transform how you think about sales, money flow, and building wealth without burning out.

Key Learning Points

• Money as energy exchange - Your relationship with money is formed by age seven based on the "frequency" you absorbed from those around you
• Why selling feels hard - When you try to convince instead of understand, you create combative energy that clients can feel
• The curiosity shift - Moving from "let me tell you why this is good" to "let me understand what you need" changes everything
• Detached commitment - Being committed to your outcome without being attached to any individual result
• The value conversation - When someone says, "it's too expensive," they're telling you their current value set, not making a judgment about you
• Fighting vs. flowing - Masculine "push" energy vs. feminine "flow" energy in business and money relationships
• The health program story - Real example of how someone's internal value system determines their buying decisions
• Frequency and flow states - How the government spends billions studying flow states and how you can access them

Memorable Quotes

"If selling feels hard, you're doing it wrong." - Kirstin's fundamental principle about sales

"Your relationship with money is pretty much locked in by the time you're seven years old based on how the people around you were relating to money." - The origin of money patterns

"All we want is to be seen, heard, and understood. If you take the position of 'I'm just trying to understand,' it changes the entire frequency of the conversation." - The power of curiosity in sales

"When somebody's telling you something's too expensive, what they're just telling you is where their value set is. That's it." - Reframing price objections

"If I see someone who's

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In our hour together, we will:

• Get crystal clear on where your business is right now—the good, the bad, and the ugly.
• Pinpoint the exact money challenges and profit leaks that are secretly holding you back from your next level.
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Think your money problems are just bad timing or poor decisions? Think again. In this solo episode, Lisa Marie pulls back the curtain on the Seven Money Pitfalls framework and reveals why your financial stress follows predictable patterns, not random chaos. This isn't about tactics or budgets, it's about understanding the deeper patterns that shape how money flows (or doesn't) in your life.

Lisa breaks down why naming these patterns changes everything, turning shame into clarity and panic into precision. Through a real client story, she shows how simple structural changes can bring immediate relief, not because income changed, but because clarity did.

Key Learning Points

• The Seven Money Pitfalls aren't tactics - They're patterns of thinking and behavior that shape money flow
• Common pitfall examples: Avoidance (not looking at money consistently), misalignment (spending on outdated priorities), emotional decision-making (spending to relieve pressure)
• Why naming patterns matters - When you don't have language for what's happening, everything feels personal and identity-based
• The power of structural clarity - Real client example of how separating available vs. committed money brought immediate relief
• The three deeper elements: Awareness, intention, and alignment - when all three are strong, money feels calmer
• Action without awareness is just motion - You must understand before you can effectively act
• Pattern recognition leads to power - If it's predictable, it's manageable; if it's manageable, it's not permanent

Memorable Quotes

"None of these make you irresponsible. They make you human." - Lisa on why we need to stop beating ourselves up about money patterns

"When you don't have language for what's happening, everything feels personal. But once you can name a pattern, that shame loses its grip." - The power of naming financial patterns

"Instead of 'what's wrong with me,' it becomes 'oh, I see what's happening.' That shift alone reduces anxiety because now it's not your identity, it's a pattern. And patterns can be changed." - From shame to empowerment

"You don't fix money by attacking it. You fix it by understanding it." - The foundation of financial transformation

"Action without awareness is just motion. Awareness creates precision." - Why understanding comes before action

"When you understand that money stress follows patterns, you stop personalizing it, and you stop

Tired of spinning your wheels and ready for real clarity on your money? Let’s talk.

I’m inviting you to a complimentary CEO Money Power Hour- this isn’t another stuffy, no-pressure sales call. This is a no-BS, roll-up-your-sleeves strategy session designed to give you immediate insight into your business finances.

In our hour together, we will:

• Get crystal clear on where your business is right now—the good, the bad, and the ugly.
• Pinpoint the exact money challenges and profit leaks that are secretly holding you back from your next level.
• Define what you really need in a strategic partner to finally achieve the financial freedom you’re working so hard for.
• Explore if my Fractional CFO services are the key to unlocking your vision for unapologetic wealth.

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Content Warning: This episode briefly discusses suicide and financial trauma. Please listen with care.

This episode is a raw, powerful conversation about financial rock bottom and the mindset shifts that create lasting transformation. Scott Maderer, stewardship coach and author, shares the deeply personal story of how he and his wife went from crushing debt and suicidal thoughts to complete financial freedom, buying their home in cash and building a successful business.

This isn't just another debt payoff story. Scott reveals how communication breakdowns, emotional spending, and the "provider protection" mindset nearly destroyed his marriage and his life. More importantly, he shares the stewardship principles that don't just build wealth but create sustainable abundance through serving others.

Key Learning Points

• The deadly trap of "protecting" your spouse from financial stress - How keeping money problems secret amplifies stress for both partners
• Why debt payoff methods matter less than mindset shifts - The 1% that clicked vs. the 99% they disagreed with in popular financial advice
• The stewardship mindset vs. hoarding mentality - How serving others creates more wealth than focusing solely on accumulation
• Open hands vs. clenched fists - Why contentment and ambition aren't opposites, and how letting go allows more to flow in
• The emotional vs. mathematical nature of money - Understanding that financial behavior is rarely about the numbers
• Why time, talent, and treasure alignment creates authentic success - Building wealth that matches your values and calling

Memorable Quotes

"I began to feel like I was literally worth more dead than alive. My life insurance would pay out, would pay off all the debt, would leave my wife with some money." - Scott's raw honesty about financial desperation

"Sometimes that 1% of what you hear is just what you need to hear to make the change that you need to make." - Lisa on being open to wisdom from unexpected sources

"What it did for me was it gave me hope. It isn't so much the methodology... it's much more that hearing somebody's story gave me hope that maybe there is a way to change this." - Scott on the power of shared stories

"Your fists are clenched - open, you can't receive." - The physical manifestation of financial scarcity mindset

"Driven and content aren't opposites. What's actually the opposite of driven is complacency." - Redefining ambition through stewardship

"It's not about what am I gonna get? It's about how can I help others and then it flows back to me." - The stewardship approach to wealth building

Guest Information

Scott Maderer is a stewardship coach, author of "Inspired Living," and host of the Inspired Stewardship podcast. He and his wife Carrie help Christian men and couples align their time, talent, and treasures to live out their authentic calling while building sustainable wealth.

Scott’s Free Offer: Free resources on time, talent, and treasure management at inspiredstewardship.com/sass

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