• (00:00:00) - Introduction
• (00:07:39) - Balancing A C-Suite Role and First-Time Parenthood
• (00:09:31) - The Importance of Presence and Quality Time
• (00:14:21) - Adjusting Back Into Work Post Maternity Leave
• (00:15:54) - Holding Personal Boundaries and Self Care
• (00:20:24) - Transformational Leadership
• (00:24:35) - Growing in Your Career and Staying Present for Family
• (00:28:15) - The Importance of Exercise in Self Care
• (00:33:53) - Defining Moments: Before and After in Life
• (00:36:48) - Building Your Life: The Power of Choice
• (00:42:09) - The Mosaic of Life: Integrating Personal and Professional
• (00:44:59) - Finding Purpose in Your Career
• (00:51:38) - Creating a Lasting Legacy

In this insightful and deeply personal conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Kyle Lacey, CMO of Docebo, to explore the realities of leading in high-growth marketing while navigating the demands of fatherhood and family life.

Kyle opens up about the early lessons that shaped his career in B2B marketing, including why “presence, not balance” has become his guiding principle. He reflects on the concept of “head trash”, the inner dialogue that often holds leaders back, and how sobriety, exercise, and intentional choices helped him reshape both his personal and professional life.

Together, Kevin and Kyle unpack the challenges of building a thriving career while showing up fully at home. Kyle shares how becoming a father transformed his perspective on leadership, the importance of open communication with family, and the courage it takes to step back when life demands it. He also reveals what it really means to own a revenue number as a marketer, and how he hopes to pass on lessons of hard work, passion, and resilience to his children.

Whether you’re managing burnout, climbing the next rung in your career, or striving to be more intentional with your family, Kyle’s story is full of honesty, reflection, and practical wisdom you can apply today.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why presence matters more than balance in work and life
• How “head trash” affects leaders and how to move past it
• The role sobriety and exercise can play in sustaining personal growth
• Why taking time off can make you a stronger parent and leader
• The value of owning a revenue number in marketing
• How open communication at home strengthens leadership at work
• Why it’s okay to love what you do, even when it’s hard
• What lessons Kyle hopes his children carry into adulthood

Top Takeaways:

• Leadership starts with presence and self-awareness
• Burnout can be a turning point for growth if managed with intention
• Family time becomes meaningful when it’s protected and planned
• Sobriety and healthy habits are game changers for resilience
• Teaching children the value of hard work and passion is part of legacy

About Kyle Lacey:

Kyle Lacey is the Chief Marketing Officer at Docebo, a leading learning platform redefining enterprise education. With a career spanning high-growth SaaS and B2B marketing, Kyle is passionate about building brands, owning revenue, and developing high-performing teams. Beyond the office, he’s a dedicated husband and father who believes leadership isn’t just about business, it’s about showing up with presence, honesty, and intention in every aspect of life.

• (00:00:00) - Introduction
• (00:02:17) - Navigating Career and Fatherhood
• (00:07:06) - Understanding Head Trash and Emotional Intelligence
• (00:12:17) - Managing Burnout and Post Burnout Recovery
• (00:14:39) - Navigating Life Changes and Giving Up Alcohol
• (00:17:57) - Coping Mechanisms and Personal Development
• (00:21:20) - Maintaining Boundaries At Work and Whilst Travelling
• (00:26:08) - Balancing Career and Home Life
• (00:30:23) - Career Progression and Executive Insights
• (00:35:51) - Creating Intentional Family Time
• (00:37:56) - Lessons for Your Children and Future Generations

In this inspiring and heartfelt conversation, Kevin Rice sits down with Lydia Smith, a transformational leader in inclusive marketing, to explore what it means to lead with authenticity while balancing family, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.

Lydia opens up about her transition from Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret to building a business alongside her daughter, a venture rooted in both legacy and love. She shares the lessons she’s learned about the loneliness of leadership, the importance of community support, and how journaling became a powerful tool for clarity and self-discovery.

Together, Kevin and Lydia discuss the role of rest, reflection, and self-care in navigating career transitions, why listening to diverse consumer voices is essential in marketing, and how parenting has shaped Lydia’s leadership style. She also highlights the importance of creating safe spaces for children to communicate openly, and the legacy of passion and authenticity she hopes to leave for her daughters.

Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a parent striving to balance career and family, or a leader seeking to create more inclusive spaces, this episode offers wisdom on resilience, leadership, and the power of building with intention.

In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why rest and reflection are essential in career transitions
• How journaling supports clarity, self-awareness, and growth
• The challenges and joys of building a business with family
• Why community support matters in leadership
• How listening to diverse perspectives strengthens marketing
• The parallels between parenting and leadership
• The importance of creating safe spaces for open communication
• Why supporting your leaders helps teams thrive
• The legacy of authenticity Lydia hopes to leave for her daughters

Top Takeaways:
• Leadership requires both strength and vulnerability
• Self-care is not indulgence, it’s strategy for sustainable success
• Inclusive marketing starts with truly listening
• Parenting teaches the same lessons that make great leaders
• Legacy is built on authenticity, not accolades

About Lydia Smith:
Lydia Smith is a transformational leader, entrepreneur, and advocate for inclusive marketing. Formerly the Chief Diversity Officer at Victoria’s Secret, she now channels her passion into building her own business with her daughter, merging family and professional purpose. With a deep commitment to authenticity, equity, and creating safe spaces for dialogue, Lydia continues to inspire leaders and parents alike to balance ambition with heart.

• (00:00:00) - Balancing Career and Family Life
• (00:00:59) - Transitioning from Corporate to Consulting
• (00:08:02) - Self-Care and Personal Growth
• (00:15:49) - Leadership Lessons from Personal Experiences
• (00:19:11) - Influencing Change in Corporate Environments
• (00:19:25) - Influencing Without Authority
• (00:21:32) - Evolving Parenting Roles
• (00:26:20) - The Power of Consumer Voices
• (00:30:09) - Reflections on Parenting and Personal Growth
• (00:36:50) - Balancing Career and Family Life
• (00:40:48) - Supporting Leadership and Team Dynamics
• (00:43:12) - Legacy and Authentic Leadership