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Boss Talks

Boss Talks

By: Evan Happel
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Boss Talks is a live conversation with professionals of the Multifamily Industry. We all have a story to tell, experience to share, and advice to give. The people in these talks are from different stages of their career, different companies (both vendors and property management), and have different passions to share.Luminous Corporation dba Community Boss Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales
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  • Laurel Zacher (Boss 118) Five Uncomfortable Truths Every Multifamily Marketer Needs to Hear
    Dec 10 2025

    Show Notes & Timestamps

    [0:10] Introduction and Guest Welcome

    Evan introduces Laurel Zacher and previews the episode’s focus.

    [1:06] Community Boss Overview

    Overview of Community Boss solutions for managing parking, amenities, and mapping.

    [1:44] Laurel’s Background & Journey

    Laurel’s career path: onsite roles, service partner, and corporate marketing leadership.

    [2:20] Career Growth in Multifamily

    The value of experience on both the service and corporate sides.

    [3:41] Negotiation Tips and Insights

    Laurel’s approach to contract negotiation.

    Book recommendation: “Never Split the Difference” by Chris Voss.

    Key tip: Know your goals and bottom line.

    [6:03] Impact of Parking on Communities

    Parking as a pain point; importance of understanding local needs and using data.

    [8:41] Marketing and Accessibility

    Market features like air conditioning, even if “everyone has it.”

    Make information accessible: captions, alt tags, and clear descriptions.

    [10:42] Personal Questions: Music and Coffee

    Laurel’s favorite motivational music and coffee order.

    [14:31] Introduction to Multifamily Marketing Truths

    Transition to the main topic: Five uncomfortable truths of multifamily marketing.

    [15:19] Chapter 1: Websites Are “Hot Garbage”

    Many multifamily websites are outdated or not user-friendly.

    Need for mobile-first design, fast load times, and self-scheduling tools.

    Shop your own properties like a prospect to identify pain points.

    [18:31] Improving Renter Experience

    Make it easy for residents to find information, schedule tours, and apply online.

    Resident portals and 24/7 access are now expected.

    [28:33] Chapter 2: Understanding Renter Preferences and Data

    Most companies don’t truly understand their current renters’ needs.

    Use both qualitative (reviews, surveys) and quantitative (data, sensors) research.

    Customer journey mapping is recommended.

    [35:47] Chapter 3: Cost of Turnover and Retention Strategies

    Average turnover cost is ~$4,000 per unit.

    Small improvements in retention can have a huge financial impact.

    Consider loyalty programs and AI-driven lease renewals.

    [41:42] Chapter 4: Online Reviews as a Marketing Weapon

    Reviews are critical for reputation and operational feedback.

    Use dashboards (e.g., Sochi, Reputation, Jay Turner) to monitor and analyze reviews.

    FTC guidelines: never incentivize reviews or allow staff/family to write them.

    [50:16] Chapter 5: Digital Ads: Money Pit or Opportunity?

    Digital advertising can be wasteful if not tracked properly.

    Focus on metrics that matter: cost per lease, ROAS (Return on Ad Spend), and marketing effectiveness.

    Optimize Google Business Profiles for organic reach.

    [1:00:29] Marketing Promises vs. Property Reality

    Don’t overpromise in marketing; ensure the resident experience matches the marketing message.

    Prioritize current residents’ needs and communication.

    Cleanliness and basic customer service are essential.

    [1:08:31] Final Thoughts

    Avoid generic terms like “luxury”; describe what’s actually offered.

    Educate and empower onsite teams to maintain standards.

    Host thanks Laurel and invites future guests.

    #bosstalks

    *The views and opinions expressed on Boss Talks are those of the host and their guest(s) and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Community Boss.

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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • Kelsi Corey (Boss 117) Grit, Growth, and Authentic Leadership
    Dec 3 2025
    • [0:10] Introduction to Boss Talks and host Evan Happel
    • [0:16] Meet Kelsi Corey and her background in staffing and executive recruiting
    • [0:31] Starting Corey Executive Recruiting and Kelsi’s early grit
    • [1:17] Kelsi’s organic social media growth and building a large following
    • [2:14] Kelsi’s experience living in apartments and parking stories
    • [4:51] Music preferences and how music motivates Kelsi
    • [10:05] Caffeine habits: Kelsi’s love for coffee and daily routines
    • [13:03] Kelsi’s journey: moving around the U.S., adaptability, and early independence
    • [17:57] First job in real estate and lessons from property management
    • [19:58] Building a career in recruiting, mentorship, and ambition
    • [26:11] Recruiting and hiring strategies at Corey Executive Recruiting
    • [29:19] Understanding and evaluating company culture
    • [30:93] Networking as an introvert and building a brand without industry events
    • [34:43] Reflections on authenticity, leadership, and sharing your story
    • [35:45] Closing remarks and encouragement to share your superpower

    #bosstalks

    *The views and opinions expressed on Boss Talks are those of the host and their guest(s) and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Community Boss.

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  • Katie Ritter (Boss 116) Turning Reviews into Results: Data-Driven Resident Experience & Trust in Multifamily Communities
    Nov 26 2025
    • [0:00] Introduction & Guest Welcome
      Evan introduces Katie Ritter and sets the stage for a discussion on resident experience and online feedback.
    • [0:59] Community Boss Overview
      Brief overview of Community Boss and its solutions for managing parking and amenities.
    • [1:33] Meet Katie Ritter
      Katie shares her background and how she became involved with Widewail.
    • [1:54] Parking Challenges
      Discussion about the unique challenges of parking in multifamily communities and its impact on resident satisfaction.
    • [2:37] Personal Parking Experiences
      Katie describes her experiences with parking in different living environments (Vermont vs. California).
    • [4:14] Living in Vermont vs. California
      Comparison of parking and community dynamics between rural and urban settings.
    • [5:00] Music Preferences
      Katie’s favorite music for motivation: Bruce Springsteen, especially "The Rising."
    • [6:45] Coffee Preferences
      Katie’s coffee habits and the ritual of preparing coffee.
    • [8:25] Katie's Career Journey
      Katie’s path from commercial real estate to coaching and eventually joining Widewail.
    • [11:20] Widewail's Multifamily Focus
      How Widewail expanded into the multifamily sector and Katie’s current role.
    • [12:16] Voice of the Resident Report
      Overview of Widewail’s annual report analyzing resident reviews using natural language processing.
    • [14:41] Parking in Resident Reviews
      Parking is rarely mentioned in positive reviews but is a top complaint in negative ones (11% of negative reviews).
    • [19:53] Measuring Resident Satisfaction
      How Widewail benchmarks topics like parking across thousands of communities and tracks improvements.
    • [23:45] Future Plans and Data Analysis
      Plans to make community-specific data more accessible and useful for benchmarking.
    • [25:07] Understanding Resident Feedback
      The importance of actionable insights over just collecting five-star reviews.
    • [25:37] Benchmarking Against Others
      Using data to compare communities and identify areas for improvement.
    • [26:18] Vendor Opportunities
      How data can help vendors target communities with specific needs.
    • [26:47] The Future of Review Data
      The potential for AI and generative search to summarize and organize review data.
    • [28:20] Authenticity in Reviews
      The importance of transparency, avoiding fake reviews, and building trust.
    • [29:04] Responding to Reviews
      Why personalized, human responses to reviews are more effective than automated ones.
    • [35:20] Automating Review Requests
      How Widewail automates review requests and responses for consistent feedback.
    • [36:29] Actionable Data Insights
      Delivering actionable reports to clients to improve resident experience.
    • [37:33] Measuring Impact
      Tracking improvements and making customer-led decisions using data.
    • [38:11] Goals for 2025
      Plans for more in-person events and a second, more actionable Voice of the Resident report.
    • [39:22] Supplier Partnerships
      The value of Widewail’s data for vendors and suppliers.
    • [41:10] Community Insights
      Analyzing feedback by lifecycle stage (tour, renewal, move-in/out, maintenance).
    • [44:29] The Importance of Trust
      Online reviews as a foundation for trust and social proof in multifamily housing.
    • [46:12] Closing & Podcast Plug
      Katie plugs Widewail’s podcast "Feedback Fatigue" and Evan invites listeners to participate in Boss Talks.

    #bosstalks

    *The views and opinions expressed on Boss Talks are those of the host and their guest(s) and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Community Boss.

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    48 mins
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