This is a tale of two sisters, Karen and Debra. Karen, loving, responsible, well-liked by all who know her. Karen lived with and cared for her parents until they lost their battles with Alzheimer's and cancer. Karen also had taken care of her finances and was financially well-off for retirement. Debra was gone for decades, living several states away in Louisiana. Debra never held a steady job and never had any money. When their parents died, Debra moved back to Florida, with no money and no place to stay, and Karen let her sister move into her home. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dig into the story of how the evil sister murdered the good sister with a bullet to the chest, wrapped her body in a trash bag, and buried her in a hole in the backyard.

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00:00.15 Introduction

02:10.97 Victim loves working in her yard

05:06.55 Two sisters, Karen and Debra

08:25.53 Debra comes back after parents die

12:14.34 Perp keeping victim close after death

16:55.11 Seeing a hole in the yard

20:57.88 Odor of decomposing body

25:33.91 Bad smell doesn't mean something is there

29:48.57 Very careful digging to not miss anything

35:07.70 Everything goes to the lab

40:27.15 Karen has one GSW to the chest

44:43.54 Debra claims she is "blameless"

45:28.45 Conclusion

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Part 2: The Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case has sparked national interest as the days continue to add up. As of today, Nancy Guthrie has been missing 25 days. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack look at the forensic evidence left behind inside the house as well as articles of evidence found by local citizens trying to help find the 84-year-old mother of Today Show Co-Host, Savannah Guthrie.

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00:00.07 Introduction Guthrie Part 2

02:22.10 DNA Profile didn't get hit in CODIS

07:43.42 DNA Profile in feces in a dry toilet

11:31.21 Getting a sample

15:53.69 What is "touch" DNA

20:07.83 Trying to understand movements of suspect and victim

24:58.58 Too many people involved

30:46.46 Tucson Couple finds bloody glove near scene

35:18.30 FBI did not respond as quickly as hoped

40:08.54 Reason agents leak talent contract terms

41:19.73 Conclusion

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The 84-year-old mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie, Nancy Guthrie, was last seen January 31, 2026 around 9:47pm. The next day around noon, Nancy Guthrie is reported missing. More than three weeks later she is still missing. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the forensic evidence left behind and how it has been treated by officials on the ground in an attempt to uncover the one piece of evidence that will bring Nancy Guthrie home.

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00:02.33 Introduction - Security

01:07.26 Securing a Crime Scene

03:59.01 Nancy Guthrie - Why her?

08:44.60 Sheriff's department turned scene released back to the family

13:57.53 Comparing Heuermann home

19:46.55 Blood on the ground

25:08.12 Direction blood takes investigator

29:53.66 Blood with a bubble like appearance

35:02.04 2:28am at least 20 feet away from Apple watch

40:18.20 Foot step making impression on floor

45:30.29 How often is Guthrie home cleaned?

47:41.59 Conclusion Part One

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