We are officially off the rails. Kelly is campaigning hard for “baby AI” versions of us. After we recover, we get back to what actually matters: subtype layers. In this episode we break down Enneagram Types 3 and 4 through the self-preservation, social, and one-to-one lenses, naming the strengths and watch-outs for each subtype. If you have ever wondered why some Threes feel like tireless workers while others feel like performers, or why some Fours seem quietly self-contained while others feel like intense romantics, this episode will help you spot the patterns with more clarity and less judgment.

Type 3

Self-Preservation: The Worker

Social: The Politician (or The Performer, “Peacock”)

One-to-One: The Charmer (“The Magnet”)

Type 4

Self-Preservation: The Comfortable Withdrawer (“Comfortable Individual”)

Social: The Outsider

One-to-One: The Intense Romantic

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In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly head into the Enneagram “bakery” and build out the full three-layer cake of subtypes for Types 1 and 2. Using the playful “Is It Cake?” metaphor, they show how each subtype can look completely different on the outside, even when the core number underneath is the same.

Kelly walks through the Self-Preservation, Social, and One-to-One (sexual) subtypes for Type 1 (the Organizer, the Good Citizen, and the Crusader) and Type 2 (the Caretaker, the Host, and the Intimate Helper). Along the way they talk boards and bylaws, life-coach energy, over-helping, intensity in close relationships, and why motivation is the key to telling “is it Type 1, Type 2, or something else?”

If you are a 1 or 2 (or love one), this conversation will help you spot your dominant subtype, recognize your growth edges, and appreciate the people in your life who organize, host, and love so deeply.

Type 1

• Self-preservation 1: The Organizer
• Social 1: The Good Citizen
• One-to-one (sexual) 1: The Crusader

Type 2

• Self-preservation 2: The Caretaker (also called The Nurturer)
• Social 2: The Host (also called The Community Builder)
• One-to-one (sexual) 2: The Intimate Helper

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Damon and Kelly wrap up the self preservation section of the subtype series with Types 7, 8, and 9. They break down core motives, how self preservation shows up day to day (gear, routines, safety, control), healthy vs unhealthy patterns, and simple practices to grow without losing your type’s strengths.

• Healthy signs: content with what they have, enthusiastic and inspiring, practical about safety, steady rhythms that stave off boredom.
• Early drift: chasing newest gadgets for security, getting reckless with money, overfilling time to avoid boredom.

• Healthy signs: direct and no-nonsense, protective of others, self-reliant, quietly strong, helps empower people’s strengths.
• Early drift: steamrolling to “get it done,” hiding to avoid vulnerability, workaholic streaks, chasing status symbols.

• Healthy signs: practical and patient, peaceful presence, steady routines that truly refuel, fun-loving with wry humor, unselfish.
• Early drift: autopilot comforts and favorite replays, present-only focus stalling bigger aims, apathy or emotional shut-down, stubbornness.

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