We’ve made it to the end of our Enneagram communication series—and it’s Damon’s turn in the hot seat as we talk all things Type 9!

In this episode, Damon wrestles with “Nine doubt,” shares why he’s skeptical about gentle communication styles, and admits he might be a secret One. Kelly unpacks what truly drives the Peacemaker’s calm exterior, and why the word “sure” doesn’t always mean agreement.

Together, they explore how Nines communicate, how to draw out their hidden opinions, and the lifelong challenge of choosing between peacekeeping and peacemaking. It’s equal parts insight and laughs—and a perfect wrap-up to this series!

• Damon confesses his “Nine doubt” (and wonders if he’s really a One)
• What “sure” actually means when a Nine says it
• The difference between peacemaking and peacekeeping
• Why decisions—even small ones—feel like conflict to Nines
• How Nines can practice healthy conflict and assertiveness
• Journaling, Netflix, and Damon
• Kelly’s tips for drawing out a Nine’s true thoughts and feelings
• The hilarious story of Damon’s fireworks plan
• “What Nines want you to know”—straight from Damon himself

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Double-booked calendars, fast-talking optimism, and more ideas than minutes in the day…welcome to the world of the Enneagram 7!

In this (slightly turbo) episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly explore how Type 7s approach communication, why they’re magnets for new experiencesand how to keep up without getting lost in the whirlwind.

• Why “yes” is a 7’s favorite word
• The line between healthy optimism and escaping reality
• How to invite a 7’s input and why it matters
• Practical ways to communicate without overwhelming them
• The secret sauce: saying “Wow!” before “How?”

Whether you’re a 7, love a 7, or just wonder how they stay so upbeat, this episode is packed with laughter and real-life insights to help every personality connect better.

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What’s it like to talk with a Type 8? Passionate. Direct. Powerful. And sometimes, intense. In this episode, Kelly shares from her own experience as a Type 8—what works, what doesn't, and what eights most need from you in communication. Damon helps us see how that energy can feel to others, especially when it gets misunderstood. Whether you're an Eight, love one, or work with one, this conversation unpacks the heart behind the boldness and the vulnerability behind the strength.

Episode Highlights:

• Why directness is a strength—but also a challenge—for Type 8s
• Kelly shares how texting “OK” nearly caused a crisis
• The difference between being blunt vs. being clear
• What Eights really mean when their volume goes up
• How to hold space for a powerful personality without backing down
• Why protecting people and causes drives how Eights communicate
• How to gain trust and connection with a Type 8 (and what breaks it)
• Damon’s reminder: “Don’t match intensity—just be yourself.”
• What Eights want you to know but won’t always say out loud

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