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Between Two Chairs - Demystifying Commercial Real Estate

Between Two Chairs - Demystifying Commercial Real Estate

By: Fernando Arencibia Jr. and Jennifer Wollmann
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Welcome to Between Two Chairs: Demystifying Commercial Real Estate, the podcast that brings you the latest insights and trends from the Miami commercial real estate industry. Co-hosts Fernando Arencibia Jr. and Jennifer Wollmann, both former Chairman of the Board for the largest local real estate association in the Country, the Miami Association of Realtors, bring a wealth of experience and knowledge to every conversation.

In each episode, we dive deep into the world of commercial real estate in Miami, speaking with market leaders, exploring the latest trends, and breaking down complex concepts to make them accessible for everyone.

Whether you're a seasoned real estate professional, a curious investor, or just interested in the Miami market in general, Between Two Chairs is the podcast for you. So sit back, relax, and join us as we demystify the world of commercial real estate in Miami.

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Episodes
  • An Overview of the Current CRE & National Economic Picture
    Dec 4 2025

    In this episode, Fernando gives us an overview of the economic data and policy topics presented at the National Association of Realtors Annual Convention. He touched on Lawrence Yun's presentation on the national commercial market and the economics behind it. He touched on the office market, retail demand, industrial and multi-family markets. We compared it to our local Miami MSA and touched upon the national issues with flood/hazard insurance and federal tax policies.

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    25 mins
  • The Chain of Gratitude
    Nov 27 2025

    Melissa Kirsch, the deputy editor of Culture and Lifestyle at The New York Times, wrote an article about the Chain of Gratitude. The “consistent and intentional effort to acknowledge the good things in your life” is so important for our health, emotional and mental well being. In her article, Melissa challenges us to take gratitude a step further by tracing the origin of that gratitude.

    In this episode we dive into our chain of gratitude and count you, our listeners among our blessings. Wishing you a warm Thanksgiving full of new memories, good food, and time to spend with family and friends.

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    21 mins
  • The Path to Ownership, Opportunity & the American Dream: With Andrea Davis, CCIM
    Nov 20 2025

    In this episode, we sit down with Andrea Davis, CCIM—broker, educator, and author of SimpLEASEity and Simply Own It! The American Dream. With decades of experience helping business owners and investors in Metro Phoenix, Andrea brings a rare combination of clarity, practicality, and inspiration to the world of commercial real estate (CRE).

    Andrea breaks down why owning commercial real estate remains one of the most accessible and powerful paths to building wealth—and why it continues to be a core piece of the American Dream. From buying her own office condo for Davis Commercial AZ, to guiding countless clients through leasing and ownership decisions, Andrea offers a step-by-step roadmap for anyone looking to understand or enter the CRE space.

    We also dive into one of the biggest economic drivers in the western U.S. right now—the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) plant in northern Phoenix. Andrea explains how this massive project is reshaping demand, pricing, and investment opportunities across the region.

    Whether you are a business owner, getting started in real estate as an agent or investor, or a seasoned pro, you will gain valuable insights on the process, potential and pitfalls of CRE.

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    51 mins
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