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Better: The Brand Designer Podcast

Better: The Brand Designer Podcast

By: Jen Davis
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Better: The Brand Designer Podcast, founded by Giselle Field of Wander Design Co. and Jen Davis, was founded on the belief that designers need community. We find that the branding world often feels secretive, competitive, and sometimes just plain old confusing. When we realized that our honest, soul-chat-level convos could potentially help other designers, we realized a podcast was only natural! Better: The Brand Designer Podcast was officially born.

Giselle passed away during a climbing trip in Peru in summer of 2020. We encourage all listeners of our podcast to listen to our two Celebrating Giselle episodes. Giselle's adventurous, kind, funny, and supportive presence is missed every day—each and every episode that we record is dedicated to her legacy and her vision for this podcast. It is our honor to continue recording episodes in Giselle's memory and we know that she is with us every time we sit down to record.

In winter of 2022, we welcomed Esther Knox-Dekoning from Sereth Design as a new co-host. Esther brought an incredible and fresh perspective to the pod—her transition from agency to design studio as well as her love for web design, sustainability, and world change brought new guests, ideas, and amazing episodes to our listeners. She departed the pod in spring 2023 to dedicate more time to her studio's growth, and will be greatly missed!

Now, Jen runs the podcast solo and is beyond excited to continue interviewing guests, having interesting conversations, and sharing the behind-the-scenes of running her design studio.

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Episodes
  • S12 E04: Six Sneaky Places Design Businesses Leak Time & Money with Shannon Mattern
    Sep 2 2025

    ✨ Get access to my Creative Direction Figma Template for FREE ✨


    Episode Description:

    In this episode, I chat with Shannon Mattern, a web design business coach and founder of the Web Designer Academy, to discuss her journey from corporate marketing to running a successful web design coaching business. Shannon shares the key turning points in her career, including how she identified and overcame six common areas where design businesses leak time and money and shares with us what those are. She emphasizes the importance of mindset, proper pricing, and setting boundaries to ensure profitability in your business.


    Guest Name: Shannon Mattern

    Guest Website: www.shannonmattern.com

    Guest Instagram: @shannonlmattern

    Shannon’s Course: Web Designer Academy

    Shannon’s Podcast: Profitable Web Designer


    00:00 Intro and Creative Template Freebie Info

    02:49: Shannon's Story

    19:19: Identifying Time and Money Leaks

    20:39: The Cost of People Pleasing

    21:24: Setting Boundaries and Managing Scope

    24:34: Perfectionism and Pricing Challenges

    25:35: Client Feedback and Pricing Models

    28:30: Empowering Clients with Choices

    35:25: Mindset and Self-Concept in Business

    37:43: Web Designer Academy Course Overview


    Links:

    The Design Minimind

    • Sign up to be notified - Applications for cohort 5 opens Nov 1st, 2025

    Get 30% off of your HoneyBook subscription - The CRM I use in my studio.*

    Enjoy 1 month of Showit FREE with my code “HelloJune” when you sign up.*

    Earn $100 after you run your first payroll with Gusto, my payroll and compliance software.*

    Get 50% off your first year of Flodesk, my email marketing software.*

    *These are affiliate links which means I may earn a commission.


    Connect With Us:

    Our Free Facebook Community

    Our Website

    Podcast Instagram

    Hello June Creative Instagram

    The Design Minimind

    Join The Creative Diaries (my email list)


    Tags: designer, design, brand design, brand identity design, design studio, design business, graphic design, brand designer, better podcast, brand designer podcast, logo design, brand identity design

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    41 mins
  • S12 E03: How to Use AI in Your Branding Business & The Future of AI in Boutique Branding with Liz Martinez-Nelson
    Aug 26 2025

    ✨ **Grab my Creative Direction template for FREE** ✨

    Curious what the first stage of my brand design projects looks like? Grab the Figma template (and four bonus audio trainings walking you through how to populate it!) below!

    👉🏼 Grab the template here! — Coming Sept 1st!


    Episode Description:

    As the first guest of season 12, I talk with Liz from Favorite Things Studio to discuss the integration of AI (Artificial Intelligence) in brand strategy and design. Liz shares her journey from casting director to boutique brand designer, emphasizing the value of AI tools (ChatGPT being her bread and butter) for creating more efficient and high-quality outputs and how to use them elsewhere in your business and systems. We discuss all things skepticism and the advantages of using AI in the creative industry, and how AI is reshaping the way designers approach their projects. Liz also shares details about her Brand Strategy Purrr-fection course and how she's helping other designers master the fundamentals of strategic branding.


    00:58: New Updates to the Upcoming Design Minimind Course

    06:06: Liz's Journey to Brand Design

    08:10: Starting from Scratch: Learning the Tools

    14:06: Customizing AI for Your Business

    19:16: The Future of AI in Brand Strategy

    26:33: Leveraging AI for Client Questionnaires

    29:09: Transparency with Clients About AI Usage

    32:13: Exploring Visual AI Platforms

    36:57: Creating Custom AI Workflows & Systems

    40:30: Legal and Ethical Considerations of AI

    43:16: Brand Strategy Purrr-fection Course


    Guest Name: Liz Martinez-Nelson

    Guest Website: www.favoritethingsstudio.com

    Instagram: @favorite.things.studio

    Liz’s Course: Brand Strategy Purrr-fection


    Links:

    The Design Minimind

    • Sign up to be notified - Applications for cohort 5 opens Nov 1st, 2025

    Get 30% off of your HoneyBook subscription - The CRM I use in my studio.*

    Enjoy 1 month of Showit FREE with my code “HelloJune” when you sign up.*

    Earn $100 after you run your first payroll with Gusto, my payroll and compliance software.*

    Get 50% off your first year of Flodesk, my email marketing software.*

    *Some are affiliate links which means I may earn a commission.


    Connect With Us:

    Our Free Facebook Community

    Our Website

    Podcast Instagram

    Hello June Creative Instagram

    The Design Minimind

    Join The Creative Diaries (my email list)


    Tags: designer, design, brand design, design studio, design business, brand designer, better podcast, better designer podcast, logo design, brand identity design

    Show More Show Less
    50 mins
  • S12 E02: How to Name Your Business (or Your Clients’ Business)
    Aug 19 2025

    ✨ **Grab my Creative Direction template for FREE** ✨

    Curious what the first stage of my brand design projects looks like? Grab the Figma template (and four bonus audio trainings walking you through how to populate it!) below! I'll send it out September 1, 2025 (or automatically after that date) - are you ready? 👀

    👉🏼 Grab the template here!


    Episode Description:

    In this solo episode, Jen talks about the intricacies of naming your business or your client's business. She covers the emotional (yes, that’s a thing!) and psychological aspects of naming, common pitfalls to avoid, essential checks in the naming process, and best practices for creating memorable and unique names.


    00:00: Intro

    01:11: Exciting New Freebie Announcement and What That Includes

    04:11: Diving into Episode Topic

    06:20: Psychology and Emotional Impact of Naming

    08:02: Abstract and Compound Naming Strategies

    09:30: Things to Avoid in Naming

    12:35: Naming and Brand Design Considerations

    14:32: Ensuring Name Availability and Suitability

    16:11: Conclusion and the Upcoming The Design Minimind Cohort 5 Reminder.


    Website Mentioned:

    USPTO Trademark Search


    Links:

    The Design Minimind

    • Sign up to be notified - Applications for cohort 5 opens Nov 1st, 2025

    Get 30% off of your HoneyBook subscription - The CRM I use in my studio.*

    Enjoy 1 month of Showit FREE with my code “HelloJune” when you sign up.*

    Earn $100 after you run your first payroll with Gusto, my payroll and compliance software.*

    Get 50% off your first year of Flodesk, my email marketing software.*

    *These are affiliate links which means I may earn a commission.


    Connect With Us:

    Our Free Facebook Community

    Our Website

    Podcast Instagram

    Hello June Creative Instagram

    The Design Minimind

    Join The Creative Diaries (my email list)


    Tags: designer, design, brand design, brand identity design, design studio, design business, graphic design, brand designer, better podcast, brand designer podcast, logo design, brand identity design

    Show More Show Less
    19 mins
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