Kail sits down with Larry Normile owner of Artistic Editions in Dover, Delaware for a conversation that starts with tattooing and turns into something so much bigger. Larry opens up about learning to tattoo as a teenager, how tattoo culture has changed over the years, and why he’s passionate about shifting the judgment people still carry around visible ink.

The heart of the episode is Larry’s groundbreaking work inside one of Delaware’s largest prisons, where he’s teaching inmates a real tattoo apprenticeship complete with education on hygiene, bloodborne pathogens, regulations, technique, business basics, testing, and documented hours. Larry breaks down what it takes to qualify, what the studio looks like behind the walls, and why the program is about more than tattooing it’s about rehabilitation, reentry, and giving people a path forward that actually sticks. Along the way, Larry shares his own story from foster care and juvenile detention to prison and ultimately rebuilding his life. It’s raw, hopeful, and a reminder that people are more than the worst thing they’ve ever done.

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This week on Barely Famous, Kail talks to Sarah Turney, a true crime advocate and host of Voices for Justice, to discuss the heartbreaking disappearance of her sister, Alyssa Turney. Sarah reflects on her family’s complicated history, her father’s troubling behavior, and her relentless fight for justice. She also shares how she rose to prominence on TikTok and uses her platform to advocate for unsolved cases, turning tragedy into meaningful action.

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This week on Barely Famous, Kail talks to Freida McFadden, the author behind thrillers like The Housemaid and The Boyfriend. She reveals the secrets behind crafting her signature plot twists and shares the struggle of balancing dual careers as a physician and writer. Freida also gives listeners an inside scoop on her books being adapted for film and TV. Plus, she reads some hilariously mean reviews of her satirical novella.

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Kail is joined by Alessandra for an unfiltered catch-up that somehow starts with joking about making a song, and quickly spirals into… everything. They talk about why 2025 felt so heavy, how burnout and the state of the world can kill creativity, and what it’s like having strong opinions online while trying to protect your peace.

They also get into feminism, “opinions” vs. basic human rights, and the complicated pressure around speaking up on social media especially when silence can feel loud, but speaking can come with real consequences.

In true Barely Famous fashion, it’s serious, chaotic, funny, and somehow ends with plans, sports talk, and the reminder that none of us know what we’re doing we’re just winging it and hoping for the best.

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In this episode of Barely Famous, I’m sitting down with my sister Mikaila for the very first time on the podcast, and it’s the raw, complicated sister story that so many of you have asked for but also the one I wasn’t sure I was ready to tell. We talk about how she found out I even existed, the Facebook friend requests her mom made her delete, and how the adults in our lives couldn’t get their shit together enough for us to grow up as sisters. We revisit our very different experiences with our dad, what it meant to love someone who couldn’t love themselves well, and how his death and our own estrangement mirrored the same toxic patterns we swore we’d escape.

We also open up about why our last name was never really ours, the identity crisis we picked up along the way and the lifelong ache of trying to find somewhere and someone to belong to. Through all of it, there’s the instinctual love I felt the moment I truly met my niece and a promise to do better for our kids than anyone ever did for us. If you grew up in a complicated family, have “missing” relatives, or are trying to break cycles for the next generation, this one is for you. Grab a tissue.

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On this episode of Barely Famous Kail sits down with author Layne Fargo, writer of The Favorites, They Never Learn, and Temper, to talk toxic women, ambition, and why being an “unlikable” female character is actually the goal.

They get into the dark, figure-skating drama of The Favorites (inspired by the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan scandal), full-cast audiobooks and what it really takes to keep writing after 100+ agent rejections. The ladies also dive into jealousy between ambitious women, BookTok’s impact on feminist fiction, and why choosing authenticity over likability is the real power move.

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This week on Barely Famous, Kail sits down with internet personality Trisha Paytas. Trisha opens up about her unique experiences with fame, from viral moments to the joys and challenges of motherhood, all while balancing her personal life with a massive online following. They dive into Trisha’s past controversies, her favorite pop culture moments, and the journey of self-growth that has shaped who she is today.

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Delaware-born linebacker Debo Williams joins Kail this week to talk honest, unfiltered life after football, chasing the NFL dream, and becoming a 23-year-old tech entrepreneur. From growing up in Smyrna, grinding his way from an under-recruited high school athlete to the University of Delaware and then transferring to play SEC football at the University of South Carolina, Debo breaks down what college recruiting actually looks like.

They get into the realities of what really happens when you don’t get drafted even after calls from most of the league. Debo shares how he turned that uncertainty into purpose by launching SpendHer Hotline, an app that connects real people to real experts for paid advice on anything from podcasting to mechanics.

Debo and Kail also talk youth sports culture, parents rearranging their entire lives for kids’ athletics, when it’s time to push vs. when it’s time to pull back, and what to do when your kid is “good” but not a clear D1 star. If you’re a parent of an athlete, a student-athlete, or someone trying to pivot after a dream doesn’t go as planned, this episode is for you.

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