Chris for into real estate 34 years ago, and Lauren dives right in. It started by being exposed to his dad’s commercial real estate buildings when he was younger. In the 90s, they built over 100 homes, profiting on each. When the 2008 crash came, though, things weren’t good. He had A LOT of homes in his name. To get back in the game, and make good on what he owed, Chris bought a list and started calling. Now, Chris is focused on doing deals with his community members using what he’s learned since the crash. Some of the community members are in Florida, which naturally piques Lauren’s interest. Chris gives an example of the type of deal they do: single family homes sold via rent to own. Chris believes everyone should have a real estate coach. If you liked this episode, you’ll also like episode 190: How Retiring at 44 Changed My Life.About Chris:Chris Prefontaine is a Rhode Island-based real estate investor, 7-figure coach, and CEO of Smart Real Estate Coach. He is a Forbes Business Council Member and a 3x Inc 5000 Honoree for Fastest Growing Company. Over the last 17 years, he has coached over 30K individuals and engineered more than $75M in transactions. Connect with Chris:https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisprefontaine/https://www.instagram.com/chris.prefontaine/https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclasswickedsmartbooks.com/LaurenConnect with Lauren:https://www.realadultingiseasy.com/⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/AdultingIsEasy https://www.instagram.com/adultingiseasyreal/About Lauren:Lauren Keen Aumond is passionate about personal finance. She hosts the Adulting Is Easy podcast, where she helps make adulting easier for listeners by making money easier. Lauren became a millionaire at age 31 through high income, investing in stocks, and owning and managing real estate. She was able to leave her 9-5 at age 33 and now manages her short- and long-term rentals on the west coast of Florida with her husband. For fun, Lauren plays tennis, spends time with her family, drinks red wine, travels, and boats.

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Forget passive income, find passionate income? OK, OK, you can do both. This week, Lauren is bringing you her interview with Brian Luebben. They talked about what financial freedom is, and Brian firmly believes the best way to get there is through passionate income. You must figure out what fires you up, and what you want to spend your time doing. And once 50% of your time is spent on your side hustle, go in on it full time. Your financial foundation is not sexy stuff. Brian's involved house hacking (renting part of a property out while living there) in Atlanta, GA. Brian drops a TON of actionable advice. What does your exciting life look like? Maybe it’s not traveling around the world. Document this in detail, using a tool like a vision board. Surround yourself with mentors and coaches. Your peers matter too. Confidence comes from action. Not the other way around. Your environment matters. Information is not the answer, you have to take action. YOU will be the reason you succeed.

About Brian Luebben:

Brian Luebben is an Entrepreneur, Podcaster, and Real Estate Investor out of Atlanta, GA. He started a DJ company in college. During his career, he made it to the top of a Fortune 500 Company in their Sales Organization, only to realize quickly that living the “corporate America life” wasn’t for him. Brian now runs a successful podcast “The Action Academy” where he talks to seven, eight, and nine figure entrepreneurs on how to earn freedom in life and business. Through his podcast, cash-flowing real estate, and his Media Company, he has the Financial Freedom to do what he wants, when he wants, with who he wants.

Brian left corporate job in March 2022, hopping on a one way flight, and traveling the world for 6 months straight. His new mission is to help 1,000,000 other people do the same through The Action Academy.

Connect with Brian:

⁠https://twitter.com/theactionpod⁠

⁠https://www.instagram.com/actionacademypodcast/⁠

⁠https://theactionacademy.co/⁠

Connect with Lauren:

⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/AdultingIsEasy ⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/adultingiseasyreal/⁠⁠

Financial literacy has two parts 1) knowing your numbers and 2) knowing the terms people use in the industry. Michelle has always been passionate about numbers, especially business numbers once she became a business owner. Later, when she got her personal finance knowledge and certifications, though, she became OBSESSED. You don’t have to be as passionate as Michelle or Lauren, but you should at least start talking about personal finance and learning. And it’s easier to learn now more than ever. No longer are “they” able to gatekeep finance knowledge from you. Michelle then opens up and shares her story of racking up over $500,000 in debt – and that didn’t include a mortgage! She proves that learning her numbers, learning the terminology, and talking about her situation improved her life. Michelle started digging herself out debt by debt (some of which had been written off by the lenders over time). Lauren reminds the listeners that we shouldn’t try to keep up with others because we don’t even know if they own the things they have. Trying to keep up could mean piling on a lot of debt. If you’re looking to start today, get honest with yourself about your debt. Know your numbers! And make sure you give yourself permission to build and have wealth. It’s not amoral (and you can always give it away). Michelle closes by reminding us that we’re not alone in our personal finance journey.

If you liked this episode, you’ll also like episode 161: Beyond Broke: Unleash Your Financial Potential.

About Michelle:

Michelle Campbell is the author of Bluebird, a memoir that candidly explores themes of trauma, heartbreak, and the resilience found in life’s struggles. She is also the founder of a nonprofit organization dedicated to empowering individuals through financial literacy and fostering economic stability. MICHELLE CAMPBELL was born and raised in Omaha, Nebraska, and began her educational journey in South Dakota before relocating to Atlanta, Georgia, to continue her studies. During her academic pursuits, she launched a real estate investment firm, marking the beginning of her entrepreneurial path. Over the years, Michelle expanded her ventures into various industries, including horticulture, where she founded an interiorscape company, and logistics, where she established a commercial trucking business. Drawing on the insights and expertise gained across these diverse fields, she transitioned into a career in the financial services industry. She enjoys traveling, cooking, exploring diverse cuisines, organizing, dancing, indulging in spa treatments, and spending quality time with her cherished Pomeranian.

Connect with Michelle:

https://bymichellecampbell.com/

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61561259970143

https://www.instagram.com/bluebirdmemoir/https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-c-1a697b318/

Connect with Lauren:

https://www.realadultingiseasy.com/

⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/AdultingIsEasy

https://www.instagram.com/adultingiseasyreal/

About Lauren:

Lauren Keen Aumond is passionate about personal finance. She hosts the Adulting Is Easy podcast, where she helps make adulting easier for listeners by making money easier. Lauren became a millionaire at age 31 through high income, investing in stocks, and owning and managing real estate. She was able to leave her 9-5 at age 33 and now manages her short- and long-term rentals on the west coast of Florida with her husband. For fun, Lauren plays tennis, spends time with her family, drinks red wine, travels, and boats.