• Zoë Routh Leadership Podcast

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Zoë Routh Leadership Podcast

By: Zoe Routh
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  • Weekly leadership insights and interviews with CEOs, Senior Execs, Experts and Leaders in teams and culture where we ask 'what if?' to explore the future of leadership. “Thoughtful, well researched, heart felt, professional and brimming with passion and enthusiasm. Zoë Routh - you are AS GOOD (maybe better) as some of the other big names on our podcast list including Tim Ferris and Peter Diamandis.” ~ Kate Billing, Co-Founder at Blacksmith
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  • The art of leadership negotiation with Sam Trattles

    The art of leadership negotiation with Sam Trattles
    Jun 4 2024

    We are exploring the important but often overlooked art of negotiation with expert Sam Trattles, who shares her journey to loving something that many people hate. We explore Sam’s uniquely Australian APEC method and discuss the nuances of high-stakes negotiations, such as those in international conflicts. Our conversation covers managing emotions, understanding motivations, and the impact of power dynamics. Sam imparts wisdom on engaging with senior leaders and the importance of mindset in seeking fair outcomes. Whether you're navigating boardroom battles or seeking to resolve complex conflicts, this episode is packed with actionable insights that will elevate your negotiation game.

    Shownotes

    See more at: http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-framework-sam-trattles

    Key Moments

    Planet Human: Exploring the little incremental changes add up to a big change in society - from telehealth and e-scripts to identify theft and proving we are human!

    Planet Zoë: Enjoying a period of routine at home before it’s time to hit the powder. Olympus Rising is almost ready to go to the editor and then the focus will be on on Zoë’s first non-fiction book in four and a half years, tentatively called Power Games.

    Introduction to Negotiation and Sam Trattles (00:04:32)

    Zoë Routh introduces Sam Trattles, an expert in negotiation, and sets the stage for the discussion on negotiation.

    Sam Trattles' Journey into Negotiation (00:06:00)

    Sam Trattles discusses her background in negotiation and her transition into negotiation training and development.

    Corporate Negotiation Experiences (00:07:42)

    Sam shares her experiences negotiating contracts, sponsorships, and leadership challenges in corporate roles.

    The Enjoyment of Negotiation and Healthy Debate (00:08:30)

    Sam explains her love for problem-solving and the importance of healthy debate in negotiation.

    The APEC Method of Negotiation (00:12:36)

    Introducing the APEC method, emphasising the significance of preparation and the steps involved in the negotiation process.

    Complex Negotiations (00:19:28)

    Discussion on handling high-stakes, complex negotiations with different ideologies and emotional baggage.

    Dealing with Difficult People (00:20:10)

    Considerations for negotiating with difficult individuals, understanding motivations, and seeking fair outcomes.

    Emotions in Negotiation (00:22:24)

    Addressing emotional influences in negotiations, managing emotions, and facilitating problem-solving.

    Managing Emotions in Negotiations (00:26:54)

    Strategies for managing emotions in difficult conversations and high-stakes negotiations.

    Power Dynamics in Negotiations (00:28:33)

    Exploring real versus perceived power, and strategies for cutting through power dynamics in negotiations.

    Negotiation Mindset (00:36:15)

    Encouraging a change in mindset by reframing negotiation as conversations and consciously observing negotiation opportunities.

    Emotional Aikido Skills (00:39:44)

    Explanation of five emotional aikido skills to manage emotions during high-tension situations in negotiation.
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    43 mins
  • Paul Glover’s Incredible Journey from Incarceration to Leadership Legacy

    Paul Glover’s Incredible Journey from Incarceration to Leadership Legacy
    May 28 2024
    This is a profound conversation with Paul Glover, an ex-lawyer and leadership legacy coach, who shares his remarkable journey from incarceration, after being indicted by a federal grand jury on 33 counts of corruption, to redemption. Paul’s time in prison was a period of intense self-reflection and transformation, driven by a commitment to his family and a desire to become a better person. Emerging from the addictive “dark and grubby and greedy and vile” underworld Paul was confronted with dismantling his own ego in the pursuit of forgiveness. We delve into the importance of ethics, the power of humility and simple gratitude, and the role of support systems in personal growth. Paul’s candid leadership insights emphasise the need for self-reflection, accountability, and ethical decision-making frameworks and offers invaluable lessons for us all. Shownotes See more at http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-journey-paul-glover Key Moments Planet Human: A quick look at the fascinating concept of digital twins and AI technology as Reid Hoffman interviews ‘himself’! This is a theme that resonates deeply with my novels - imagine the possibilities and challenges as we interact with digital replicas of ourselves! Planet Zoë: I'm bursting with excitement to share that my upcoming novel, Olympus Rising is nearing completion. If you're seeking a gripping tale that intertwines with leadership and the future, keep your eyes peeled for its release. In the meantime catch up with The Olympus Project, Olympus Bound and grab the prequel novella Terra Blanca for free. Paul Glover's journey and challenges (00:05:01) Paul discusses his journey from being a trial attorney to getting involved in criminal activities and the impact on his life. Life in prison and aftermath (00:07:20) Paul shares the devastating impact of his imprisonment on his family and the emotional turmoil he faced. Self-reflection and transformation (00:09:16) Commitment to change, self-reflection, and the support Paul received from his wife during his transformation. Taming the ego and ethics (00:13:34) The role of ego in unethical behaviour and the importance of self-reflection. Insights on ethics and the law (00:16:09) Paul shares his perspective on ethics and the law, emphasising the importance of making black and white ethical decisions. Breaking free of ego and echo chamber (00:21:53) Zoe and Paul discuss breaking down the ego conversation justifying poor behaviour and breaking free from the echo chamber. Self-Reflection and Responsibility (00:22:29) Paul discusses the importance of creating one's self-image and the necessity of self-reflection for personal growth and transformation. Support and Environment (00:25:00) The impact of a supportive environment on individuals post-incarceration and the difficult choice of seeking and accepting support. Continuous Atonement and Gratitude (00:27:04) Paul emphasises the ongoing commitment to atonement and the practice of daily gratitude as part of his personal growth and transformation. Challenges in Reintegration (00:29:20) The challenges of finding employment post-release and the subsequent transition to coaching within distribution and manufacturing. Corporate Culture and Leadership (00:33:21) Insights on the shift in corporate culture post-pandemic and the need for a human-centric approach to leadership and team sustainability. Power and Toxic Leadership (00:36:01) Reflections on the destructive nature of power, the importance of humility in leaders, and the pressures that lead to toxic behaviour. Future Technology and Leadership (00:38:26) Paul's fascination with artificial intelligence and the anticipated shift in leadership roles from managerial to coaching and mentoring. The impact of environment and support (00:45:05) Discussion on the influence of environment and support on individuals' ability to break free from negative consequences and the need for new environments and support systems. The relationship between power and humility (00:45:05) Exploration of the relationship between power and humility, and the importance of humility, curiosity, and compassion in leadership. The role of the fool in leadership (00:46:21) The significance of having someone who can provide honest feedback and speak truth to power in leadership, drawing from the mediaeval concept of the fool. Ethical decision-making framework (00:46:21) Explanation of the "meaning, magnitude, and measure" framework for making ethical decisions, with a focus on consequences, universal principles, and values.
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    50 mins
  • A retired spy’s leadership guide to understanding people

    A retired spy’s leadership guide to understanding people
    May 21 2024

    Ever wondered how a spy hones the skill to read people with precision? Our guest this week shares his riveting journey from the military to mastering human intelligence. Retired spy and a three-time award-winning speaker, JJ Brun's story is not just about espionage; it's a masterclass in understanding human dynamics that every leader can learn from. JJ's expertise in the DiSC® model offers a fascinating lens to decode how people think and act. His insights into behavioural traits and communication styles are invaluable for anyone looking to navigate the complex world of leadership and personal development. JJ even puts your host under the microscope, assessing my behavioural traits using the DISC model. As a DiSC practitioner myself, it was an enlightening experience!

    Shownotes

    See more at: http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-dynamics-brun

    Key Moments

    Planet Human: I’ve been watching Netflix show 3 Body Problem which sent me down a rabbit hole about the Fermi paradox. It is the identification that there is a high likelihood of existence of life somewhere out there in the universe. Fascinating stuff!

    Planet Zoë: If you are in Canberra on 30 May consider coming along to my in-person book launch for Olympus Bound. It’s going to be a fun celebration at the Shine Dome - it’s free to attend, details and registration here

    JJ Brun's Journey to Becoming a Spy (00:05:43) JJ Brun shares his unexpected path to becoming a spy and his experiences in the military.

    Spy School Experience in the UK (00:09:50) JJ Brun recounts his surreal and challenging experience at a spy school in the UK.

    Understanding Self and Personal Traits (00:17:01) JJ Brun discusses his self-discovery and understanding of his traits in relation to his career as a spy.

    Sharing Knowledge and Mission (00:20:45) JJ Brun emphasises the importance of self-awareness and sharing knowledge for personal and professional growth.

    Decoding Human Capital (00:21:52) Discussion on decoding human capital, understanding pace and priority perspectives, and identifying leadership styles.

    Understanding Leadership Styles (00:24:02) Explanation of the four leadership styles and how leaders adapt their style to the environment for effective leadership.

    Personality Insights and Archetypes (00:27:13) Exploration of personality insights, style blends, and how hobbies can provide clues to preferred communication style. Brief mention of archetypes.

    Spying and Intelligence Work (00:32:31) Insights into the life of an intelligence officer, including building rapport, understanding and discerning human behaviour, and experiences in the field.

    Building Relationships in Espionage (00:39:42) A detailed case study of building a relationship with a challenging individual, using communication styles to navigate interactions, and learning to ask quality questions.

    Feel Good Icebreaking Questions (00:42:47) JJ Brun discusses the importance of memorising effective icebreaking questions and shares his mentor's influence.

    Personal Branding (00:43:40) JJ Brun explains how he branded himself as a retired spy and the importance of brand identity.

    Spy Museum Experience (00:46:20) JJ Brun shares his experience at a spy museum and the branding ideas he gained from it.

    Challenge Coin Business Card (00:47:33) JJ Brun discusses his unique business card and its military background.

    Fast Five Q&A (00:48:39) Zoë Routh asks JJ Brun five rapid-fire questions on future technology, leadership, workplace problems, leaders, and favourite leadership book or podcast.

    Misconceptions About Spying (00:51:37) JJ Brun addresses misconceptions about spying and emphasises the difference between reality and Hollywood portrayals.

    Balancing Archetypes (00:54:51) Zoë Routh discusses the importance of balancing archetypes for leadership and team growth.
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    57 mins
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