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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

By: Stephanie Winn
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 You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist intimately explores the human experience while critiquing the state of the counseling profession as it yields to cultural madness. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist as she pivots away from treating patients, and toward the question of how to apply psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of gender identity to assisted suicide? Stephanie invites heretical, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including current and former therapists, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. *ISSUES LISTENING ON SPOTIFY* - If you notice some episodes missing from Spotify, you can find them on any other platform. New episodes are released every Monday, and all are present in numerical order, so you should always see an episode that has been released within the past week, followed by episodes in descending numerical order without any missing numbers. Spotify has a backwards and archaic system for flagging copyrighted content for removal. This podcast has a license to use its theme song, Half Awake by Joey Pecoraro, but Spotify's system keeps removing it anyway, and demands that podcast creators manually appeal the removal for every episode. This is obviously ridiculous. Spotify needs to get it together.© Stephanie Winn Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Relationships Social Sciences
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  • 186. Preventing School Shootings: Jonathan Cogburn on the Conservative Case for School Counseling

    186. Preventing School Shootings: Jonathan Cogburn on the Conservative Case for School Counseling
    Nov 3 2025
    In this compelling follow-up conversation, I welcome back Jonathan Cogburn, a licensed marriage and family therapist from Texas, to explore a nuanced conservative perspective on mental health services in schools. While we've covered many concerns about ideological overreach in school counseling on this podcast, Jonathan makes a thoughtful case for why certain levels of mental health intervention are not just appropriate but indispensable in our current educational landscape.We dive deep into the McKinney-Vento Act and its implications for students experiencing homelessness - a critical issue that most therapists haven't even heard about. Jonathan shares his extensive experience working with behavioral threat assessment teams and reveals surprising data about successfully prevented school attacks. We explore how schools can create positive cultures that prevent violence upstream, the proper boundaries between school support and parental roles, and why some vulnerable student populations desperately need these services.This conversation challenges us to think beyond binary positions about school mental health services, examining what a "just right" balance looks like that serves students while respecting parental authority and avoiding ideological indoctrination.Jonathan Cogburn is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in West Texas who currently works for an agency that provides a variety of support to school districts in his area In that role he delivers state-required mental health training to districts, supports rural school counselors and homeless student liaisons, and co-leads a team of licensed professionals and school counselors that respond to crises and disasters. Follow Jonathan @SystemicTexism on X or on Substack.MAKE SURE YOU'RE FOLLOWING THIS PODCAST ON ANY PLATFORM OTHER THAN SPOTIFY. Spotify removes episodes for containing copyrighted music, even though I have a license to use my theme song, Half Awake by Joey Pecoraro. It's been a huge pain; I'll release an episode explaining this soon. In the meanwhile, find this podcast on your platform of choice starting here. [00:00:00] Start [00:02:45] Defining McKinney-Vento and Student Homelessness [00:05:40] Unaccompanied Youth and School Support Systems [00:08:50] Mental Health Professionals’ Role in Identifying Homeless Students [00:14:10] Student Leadership Summit and Success Stories [00:18:10] Association of Mental Health Professionals Conference Recap [00:19:45] Detransition Language Discussion [00:23:05] Values and Ethics in School Mental Health Services [00:29:45] Social Emotional Learning (SEL) Explained [00:33:00] Voluntary vs. Imposed Therapy for Students [00:40:13] Problems with Suicide Awareness Campaigns for Children [00:46:00] Overmedicalization and the Origins of Family Therapy [00:51:00] Family Therapy’s Historical Role and Modern Challenges [00:55:00] Appropriate Levels of School-Based Intervention [01:04:30] Behavioral Threat Assessment Overview [01:35:30] Restoring School Function and ReadinessROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2025 to take 50% off your first month.PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCoursesTALK TO ME: book a meeting.PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.SUPPORT THE SHOW: subscribe, like, comment, & share or donate.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order.MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission. ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!Learn more about Do No Harm.Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post ...
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    1 hr and 41 mins
  • 185. Why Autistic Teens Fall for “Trans” and What They Need Instead with Simon Amaya Price

    185. Why Autistic Teens Fall for “Trans” and What They Need Instead with Simon Amaya Price
    Oct 27 2025
    In this compelling conversation, I sit down with 21-year-old desister Simon Amaya Price, who identified as transgender from ages 14 to 17. Now serving as Outreach and Events Lead at the LGB Courage Coalition, Simon offers invaluable insights into why young people—especially those with autism—fall into gender ideology.We explore the perfect storm of factors that led to Simon's trans identification: autism, bullying, sexual assault, and false accusations in the wake of the #MeToo movement. Simon shares how his parents' firm boundaries against medicalization, combined with giving him a "long leash" to make mistakes and learn from them, ultimately helped him desist.Our discussion delves into practical strategies for parents, including the "match plus one" social skills framework, body-based distress tolerance techniques, and why allowing kids to experience natural consequences is crucial. Simon challenges the "neurodiversity affirming" approach that keeps autistic kids disabled, advocating instead for teaching real-world skills. We examine how disconnection from the body fuels gender dysphoria and why adventures, cold showers, and physical challenges can reconnect kids to reality. This episode offers hope and concrete tools for families navigating the gender crisis.Simon is a desister, writer, and speaker, fighting gender ideology with classical liberal values. At 14, he came out as transgender but desisted after 3 years. He has written for The Boston Globe, testified on bills nationwide, has spoken in communities across the country, and been featured in the Daily Mail, Boston Herald, and The Daily Signal. Simon now is the Outreach and Events Lead at the LGB Courage Coalition.Simon can be found at:X (Twitter): @SimonAmayaPriceInstagram: @SimonAmayaPriceYouTube: @SimonAmayaPriceWebsite: simonamayaprice.comBooks mentioned in this episode:The Coddling of the American Mind by Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff[00:00:00] Start & guest introduction[00:02:52] Political Violence and Role Models[00:04:00] The Coddling of American Minds[00:05:00] Finding Normal Male Peers[00:05:41] Charlie Kirk's Impact[00:07:00] Coming Out as Bisexual[00:08:00] Sexual Assault and False Accusations[00:10:09] Why Accusations Fueled Trans Identity[00:11:18] Parents Unaware of Trauma[00:12:49] How Boys Learn About Female Power[00:14:46] Rejection and False Allegations[00:16:28] Young Men's Dating Fears[00:18:00] Male Coping Strategies[00:20:37] Conservative vs Liberal Dating Success[00:21:41] Parent Coaching Advice[00:23:07] What My Parents Did Right[00:26:00] Making Mistakes Builds Character[00:27:00] Adventures and Neuroplasticity[00:28:01] Natural Consequences Build Identity[00:31:32] Learning Through Experience[00:33:30] Complaining as Communication[00:34:30] Inconvenience vs Challenge vs Trauma[00:37:00] The Long Leash Double Bind[00:39:00] Life Skills Prevent Trans Identity[00:40:26] Social Skills Algorithm[00:41:47] Match Plus One Framework[00:43:00] Life Skills Get You Out[00:44:05] Working Hard on Social Fluidity[00:45:00] Neurodiversity Affirming Care Problems[00:47:23] Therapists Who Only Validate[00:49:00] Tools for Autistic Teens[00:51:00] Frameworks for Social Understanding[00:54:00] Mental Health Energy Landscapes[00:56:00] Reflective Listening for Rumination[00:58:03] Body-Based Distress Tolerance[01:02:00] Concrete Goals in Therapy[01:04:00] Breaking Down Big Goals[01:07:00] Modeling Coping Strategies[01:09:08] Ice Cube Self-Harm Prevention[01:11:00] Embodied Experiences Matter[01:14:00] Ancient Vedic Psychology[01:16:00] Looking Inwards vs Ruminating[01:18:30] Trauma Separates Mind from Body[01:19:41] Growing Into Your Body[01:22:00] Losing Connection at Puberty[01:24:00] From Appearance to Function[01:25:17] Adult Personality Development[01:27:00] Presenting Yourself Authentically[01:28:02] Breaking Down Big Tasks[01:30:00] Health Signals and Attractiveness[01:31:00] Queer Theory vs Reality[01:33:00] Theory of Mind and Autism[01:33:39] Standpoint Epistemology Problems[01:35:45] Understanding Historical Atrocities[01:37:05] Street Conversations with Opposition[01:39:00] Charlie Kirk Abortion Discussion[01:40:30] Building Empathy Across Difference[01:41:56] Starting with Agreement[01:43:38] Closing and Contact InformationROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2025 to take 50% off your first month.PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCoursesTALK TO ME: book a meeting.PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.SUPPORT THE SHOW: subscribe, like, comment, & share or donate.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off ...
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    1 hr and 46 mins
  • 184. The Best ROGD Parenting Advice a Robot Can Give: Meet RepairBot, a Groundbreaking AI Tool

    184. The Best ROGD Parenting Advice a Robot Can Give: Meet RepairBot, a Groundbreaking AI Tool
    Oct 20 2025
    In this groundbreaking episode, I introduce RepairBot: the world's first artificial intelligence chatbot specifically designed for parents navigating their child's gender identity questions. Trained on my ROGD Repair program, coaching transcripts, and even my own voice, RepairBot serves as a 24/7 support tool for parents of trans-identified adolescents and young adults seeking help navigating the tricky terrain of maintaining connection while encouraging healthy choices.I demonstrate RepairBot's capabilities through a recorded conversation where I role-play as a parent seeking guidance about a 16-year-old daughter who's binding and requesting they/them pronouns. The AI impressively handles complex concepts from my course, including double binds, parts language, accusation audits, and alter-casting. We explore how to build genuine self-esteem in teens, navigate rigid ideological positions, and handle situations where adult children violate agreements about medical transition.I address the ethics of AI in this sensitive space, explaining why I created RepairBot despite the uncanny valley effect and ethical questions. With families already turning to generic AI for help—and receiving conflicting advice—I believe offering an AI trained on specialized knowledge is better than leaving parents to navigate alone. RepairBot speaks 40 languages and integrates with the full ROGD Repair curriculum to provide culturally accessible, evidence-based support when families need it most.Try RepairBot free at ROGDrepairbot.com or find it embedded as a golden chat box in the bottom right corner of any of my websites (rogdrepair.com, sometherapist.com, stephaniewinn.com). Enter your email address to access the voice call feature. RepairBot Unlimited comes with new ROGD Repair memberships so students get all the homework help they need. Get yours at ROGDrepair.com, or add-on RepairBot separately here. Use code SOMETHERAPIST2025 to take 50% off your first month of ROGD Repair with RepairBot Unlimited. Report any technical issues, incorrect answers or unanswered questions to hello@sometherapist.com Share this episode with someone in your life who could use these tools![00:00:00] Start – Introducing Repair Bot and episode overview[00:01:00] What Repair Bot is and how it helps parents[00:02:00] Role play Q&A begins - teen binding and pronouns[00:04:00] Applying the “double bind” concept to communication[00:07:00] Using “parts language” to model emotional awareness[00:10:00] Explaining and using “accusation audits”[00:13:00] Discussing hypothetical father’s rigidity and emotional maturity[00:16:00] Helping a headstrong teen with moral development and ego[00:20:30] Building confidence and competence outside ideology[00:24:00] Friend's son using estrogen secretly; resentment, entitlement[00:28:30] End of demo – reflection on AI ethics and Repair Bot limits[00:32:00] Coaching versus therapy, role of AI support for parents[00:36:00] Repair Bot’s purpose, boundaries, and user guidelines[00:38:30] Features: language support, access options, and pricing[00:41:30] Technical note – how subscriptions and manual setup work[00:44:30] Closing remarks – patience, clarifications, and final sign-off[00:45:00] End credits – music, acknowledgments, and program linksROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2025 to take 50% off your first month.PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCoursesTALK TO ME: book a meeting.PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.SUPPORT THE SHOW: subscribe, like, comment, & share or donate.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order.MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission. ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!Learn more about Do No Harm.Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @...
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