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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

By: Stephanie Winn
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 You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist intimately explores the human experience while critiquing the state of the counseling profession as it yields to cultural madness. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist as she pivots away from treating patients, and toward the question of how to apply psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of gender identity to assisted suicide? Stephanie invites heretical, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including current and former therapists, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness.© Stephanie Winn Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Relationships Social Sciences
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  • 179. Hounded: Jenny Lindsay Speaks Out About the Women Who Have Been Harmed in the Gender Wars

    179. Hounded: Jenny Lindsay Speaks Out About the Women Who Have Been Harmed in the Gender Wars
    Sep 15 2025
    Scottish poet and writer Jenny Lindsay's artistic career was derailed when she spoke out against the violent tactics used by gender identity activists. Today, Jenny is the author of "Hounded: Women, Harms and the Gender Wars," and her story illustrates what she calls the "secondary harms" of gender ideology - the ripple effects that occur when competent voices are silenced through systematic harassment campaigns.We explore how Jenny went from being "one of Scotland's leading performance poets" to being completely ostracized from the Scottish arts scene, not for discussing gender issues directly, but simply for defending women's right to meet and discuss proposed legal changes. Her experience reveals the parasitic nature of this ideology as it hollows out liberal institutions from within.Jenny breaks down what she identifies as the three core beliefs that get women labeled as "TERFs": that women are a materially definable category, that we have rights based on this reality, and that we deserve freedom of speech on matters affecting us. We discuss the psychological tactics of this movement, the economic warfare against dissenting voices, and why competent women across fields are being systematically targeted. This conversation examines not just what we're losing when reality becomes negotiable, but what happens to a society that rewards ideological conformity over truth-telling and competence.Jenny Lindsay is a writer, poet and essayist based in Scotland. She has a weekly column in The Scotsman and writes for numerous publications including The Spectator, The Daily Mail, and The Times. Her debut book Hounded: Women, Harms and the Gender Wars was published to great acclaim by Polity in 2024, being described as 'one of the most important political books ever to have been written about Scottish culture and politics,' by The Herald, and 'one of the definitive chronicles of these times,' by author JK Rowling. A former poetry performer and live literature programmer, she gained several accolades in the arts prior to her own 'hounding' over gender identity issues in Scotland, including a John Byrne award for Critical Thinking for her film-poem The Imagined We in early 2020, and a Creative Edinburgh Award for Leadership in 2017.Get Jenny's book on AmazonFollow on X @msjlindsay Read Jenny's Substack, The Schism Ring00:00 Core Beliefs and the Hounding Phenomenon06:49 The Existential Question of Gender Identity12:53 Understanding Core Beliefs and Their Implications18:07 The Parasitic Nature of Ideologies24:44 The Sociopathic Dynamics of Hounding32:44 The High Road vs. The Low Road41:33 The Personal Toll of Ideological Conflicts45:54 The Edinburgh Arts Scene and Its Challenges52:56 Cultural and Economic Impacts of Activism01:01:24 The Intersection of Gender and Racial Dialogues01:09:20 Hope Amidst Ongoing Struggles01:19:28 Navigating the Future of DiscourseROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2025 to take 50% off your first month.PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCoursesTALK TO ME: book a meeting.PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.SUPPORT THE SHOW: subscribe, like, comment, & share or donate.ORGANIFI: Take 20% off Organifi with code SOMETHERAPIST.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order.SHOW NOTES & transcript with help from SwellAI.MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission. ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!Learn more about Do No Harm.Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other...
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    1 hr and 23 mins
  • 178. Understanding Interpersonal Narcissism and Envy in the Workplace with Dr. Nathalie Martinek

    178. Understanding Interpersonal Narcissism and Envy in the Workplace with Dr. Nathalie Martinek
    Sep 8 2025
    In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Nathalie Martinek, a former developmental biologist turned expert on narcissism and toxic workplace dynamics. We delve into the complexities of interpersonal narcissism, exploring how our behaviors often stem from a desire to preserve our ideal self-image. Nathalie shares her journey from the world of science to understanding human behavior, highlighting the parallels between toxic workplace cultures and the biological concepts she once studied.We discuss the often-overlooked role of envy in our interactions, particularly in professional settings. Nathalie emphasizes that envy is a natural human emotion, but it can lead to destructive behaviors when we allow it to dictate our perceptions of others. We explore how feelings of inferiority can trigger envy, prompting us to undermine those we perceive as superior. This conversation invites listeners to reflect on their own experiences with envy and shame, encouraging a deeper understanding of how these emotions influence our relationships.Throughout our discussion, we aim to answer critical questions: How do cultural differences shape our perceptions of self and others? What role does shame play in our interactions? And how can we cultivate a healthier relationship with our emotions to foster more authentic connections? Join us as we unpack these themes and seek to understand the underlying drivers of our behavior in both personal and professional contexts.Nathalie Martinek, PhD, helps professionals build relational leadership capacity and navigate the subtle power dynamics that shape trust, connection, and harm at work. She coaches individuals to shift dysfunctional relational patterns, facilitates group spaces for reflection, and consults on how to make sense of workplace dysfunction. A former developmental biologist, she studied how environments shape behaviour and enable dysfunction.links:Substack: www.hackingnarcissism.comwebsite: www.drnathaliemartinek.combooks: www.drnathaliemartinek.com/booksLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathalie-martinek/ 00:00 Start[00:02:12] Transition from biology to narcissism.[00:07:18] Unspoken cultural influences on behavior.[00:10:04] Tall poppy syndrome explained.[00:12:40] Superiority and inferiority dynamics.[00:16:13] Interpersonal narcissism and behavior.[00:21:07] Shame as a moral emotion.[00:25:36] Moral injury and external expectations.[00:28:20] Cultural values and self-awareness.[00:32:16] Toxic envy and emotional maturity.[00:35:29] Emotion as neutral states.[00:40:16] Purpose of envy and innovation.[00:43:12] The struggle with self-identity.[00:49:43] Covert envy and recognition.[00:52:23] Envy in professional relationships.[00:55:42] Covert envy and validation.[00:59:01] Knowledge theft and plagiarism.[01:03:11] Idea appropriation and originality.[01:09:44] Authority and envy in academia.[01:12:03] Parasocial relationships and dynamics.[01:17:00] Fear of insignificance on social media.[01:18:36] Online presence self-reflection.[01:25:13] Relational interpersonal narcissism.[01:28:17] Relational intelligence and group dynamics.[01:31:54] Human nature and group dynamics.ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2025 to take 50% off your first month.PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCoursesTALK TO ME: book a meeting.PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.SUPPORT THE SHOW: subscribe, like, comment, & share or donate.ORGANIFI: Take 20% off Organifi with code SOMETHERAPIST.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order.SHOW NOTES & transcript with help from SwellAI.MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission. ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!Learn more about Do No Harm.Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or ...
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    1 hr and 35 mins
  • 177. Emotional Maturity and Masculine Mentorship | Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen, LMFT

    177. Emotional Maturity and Masculine Mentorship | Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen, LMFT
    Sep 1 2025
    In this episode, I have the pleasure of welcoming back two incredible guests, Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen, both of whom are seasoned therapists and passionate advocates for mental health. We dive deep into the nuances of mentorship and the importance of genuine relationships in our professional lives. As we explore their unique friendship, I’m reminded of the value of having mentors who challenge us to grow and see our potential.One of the key concepts we discuss is the balance between ego and humility in our interactions, particularly in therapeutic settings. We reflect on the idea that being open to feedback and recognizing our limitations can lead to profound personal growth. Dr. Conte shares insights from his Yield Theory, emphasizing the importance of meeting people where they are and leading with humility rather than authority.We also tackle the complexities of dual relationships in therapy, questioning the strict boundaries often imposed in our field. How can we foster authentic connections while maintaining professionalism? This episode aims to explore these questions and more, ultimately highlighting the transformative power of mentorship and the deep connections that can arise from genuine care and intentionality in our relationships. How can being skeptical of your own ego lead to personal growth? What role does the word "maybe" play in shaping our beliefs? How did Dr. Christian Conte and Jake Wiskerchen meet, and what is the nature of their relationship? What is Yield Theory, and how does it relate to communication and emotional management? How can mentorship positively impact personal and professional development? What are the ethical considerations surrounding dual relationships in therapy? How can therapists maintain boundaries while fostering genuine connections with clients? What is the significance of intentionality in therapeutic and mentoring relationships? How can therapists effectively challenge their clients to help them grow? What are the limitations of the medical model in understanding human behavior? How can psychodynamic theory complement behaviorism in therapy? Why is it important to focus on the underlying issues rather than just symptoms in therapy? How can therapists work to create a non-weird environment for their clients? What are the challenges of conducting research in the field of psychology? How can anecdotal evidence be valuable in understanding the effectiveness of therapeutic approaches? What is the importance of discernment in navigating relationships and professional boundaries?Jake Wiskerchen, LMFT owns and operates Zephyr Wellness in northern Nevada and serves on the board of Walk the Talk America. His emotional functioning videos mentioned in this episode can be found here. Follow him at Twitter/X: @jakewisk Dr. Christian Conte is a nationally recognized mental health specialist with over 25 years of experience, creator of Yield Theory, and author who has worked with diverse populations from maximum security prisoners to elite professionals. With a Ph.D. in Counselor Education and Supervision, he blends ancient wisdom and modern psychology to teach self-mastery and emotional strength, helping people become their most authentic selves through direct, compassionate communication.Books by Dr. Conte:Strong Mind, Strong Man: The Blueprint for Mental Toughness, Self-Mastery and Real StrengthWalking Through Anger: A New Design for Confronting Conflict in an Emotionally Charged World21 Days To Change Your Life: A Yield Theory WorkbookAdvanced Techniques for Counseling and PsychotherapyMastering What You Practice: Learning to Control Your EmotionsLife LessonsZen Parent, Zen ChildROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2025 to take 50% off your first month.PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCoursesTALK TO ME: book a meeting.PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.SUPPORT THE SHOW: subscribe, like, comment, & share or donate.ORGANIFI: Take 20% off Organifi with code SOMETHERAPIST.Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order.SHOW NOTES & transcript with help from SwellAI.MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission. ALL OTHER LINKS HERE. To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!Learn more about Do No Harm.Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.Take 20% off all superfood ...
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