You Can't Elbow Your Way to Leadership — Goodhart Sons' Wake-Up Call
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You Can't Elbow Your Way to Leadership — Goodhart Sons' Wake-Up Call
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Most fab shops talk about culture.
Marc and Mike Goodhart had to rebuild theirs.
From stepping into a fifth-generation family business… to confronting the hard truth that you can't "muscle" your way into leadership… to reshaping a 90-year-old company around accountability, clarity, and people—the Goodhart brothers' story is a blueprint for every shop trying to build something that lasts.
In this episode, Marc and Mike open up about the real work behind succession, culture, profit-sharing, next-gen recruiting, and running a family business with honesty and humility. Their insights are raw, practical, and grounded in decades of lessons learned the hard way.
It's not just about fabrication.
It's about building a shop people are proud to be part of.
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Why leadership in a family business must be earned, not inherited
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How to rebuild culture by simplifying values and setting expectations
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The surprising reason employees want family succession
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How Goodhart Sons partners with schools to attract the next generation
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Why dignity matters—even when letting someone go
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How profit-sharing creates ownership and stability for shop-floor workers
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What it takes to sustain a 90-year legacy in a modern industry
03:30 – The Goodhart Legacy: How a 90-year-old fab shop survives into Gen4 and Gen5.
05:50 – Earning Your Place: Why ownership in a family business must be earned, not inherited.
11:47 – Next-Gen Recruiting: How Goodhart Sons partners with schools to attract young talent.
20:23 – Firing With Dignity: The philosophy behind treating people well—even on the way out.
26:08 – Profit Sharing Explained: How their compensation model protects jobs and builds loyalty.
29:12 – Culture Simplified: Turning 12 legacy objectives into a modern, memorable culture system.
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Connect with Goodhart Sons on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/goodhart-sons-inc/
Goodhart Sons Website: https://www.goodhartsons.com/
Lights Out Podcast: https://makingchips.com/show/lights-out/
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