“People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election.”

–Otto Von Bismarck

“It's funny, because when I was writing After the Hunt, I definitely wasn't like, ‘Oh, I want to write about this current socio-political moment.’ I was really just invested in the characters and the story,” says screenwriter Nora Garrett about writing a screenplay that probes the dynamics of power, privilege and social accountability. She adds, “What I didn't even realize was something that was drilled into me because of my acting training – that the work, the scripts, the text, should not be divorceable from the socio-political moment. One comes from the other and I think that was just in the back of my brain while I was writing.”

On today’s episode, we chat with screenwriter Nora Garrett about her new film After the Hunt, directed by Luca Guadagnino (Challengers), and starring Julia Roberts, Andrew Garfield and Ayo Edebiri. Set in the philosophy department at Yale University, a devastating accusation by a female student (Edebiri) against a male teacher (Garfield) unleashes public and personal chaos that blurs the truth of the situation and will have you questioning the motives of every single character.

Garrett talks about working as an assistant in Hollywood, spending time on many film sets, and watching the good, bad and ugly parts of the existing power dynamics. These experiences helped her form the complex, morally gray characters that inhabit her script.

“We have a really hard time holding duality in our head. We have a really hard time being like, ‘This is a good person who has done a bad thing’ or, ‘This is a bad person who occasionally does good things.’ And it's not even really about bad and good, right and wrong. I think it's about this feeling of why these characters present themselves a certain way, and is that different from how they feel about themselves on the inside?” says Garrett.

She also shares what she learned about writing from working with Julia Roberts: “Economy. Julia is such a good actor, and I am the type of writer who will take two paragraphs to say what she can say in a look. I think that what I really learned from her was that sometimes you just don't need to say this monologue, you need these two lines, economy of word, and then asurplus of really good character thought brought by an actor can sometimes make a scene sing more than a lot of dialogue.”

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“[My dad] really started to inhabit the characters, especially Ray, speaking as him during the writing process. That was when I realized this was going to be its own kind of special beast. Working with him taught me so much as a writer and storyteller; by the time we got to set, we had a shorthand for everything,” says director and co-writer Ronan Day-Lewis about writing the script Anemone with his father, Daniel Day-Lewis.

The film Anemone, starring Daniel Day-Lewis, Sean Bean and Samantha Morton, paints a portrait of a family torn apart as they struggle to come to terms with their past and present after their harrowing experiences with the Troubles in Northern Ireland in the 1970s. Isolation, shame, regret and the true meaning of brotherhood are themes explored in this hyper-focused family drama.

On today’s episode we sit down with Ronan Day-Lewis to find out more about his edgy first feature film, what it’s like writing a screenplay with Daniel Day-Lewis, and Ronan’s personal connection between his visual art and the imagery in the film.

Ronan also shares this advice to screenwriters tackling family and generational stories: “Whatever you can fall in love with, latch onto that: an image, a feeling, a character. Don’t put pressure on approaching a script a certain way. Stay open, be patient, and keep sight of what originally gave you the impulse to enter that world. Over time, the story will reveal itself to you.”

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“You have to love all your characters. Even if you're writing a bad guy. You, the writer, have to write them with love and empathy, and treat each character, give each character, a full life and a full arc in your story, even if their screen time is small. Essentially, if you were following that character, they also have a full story, a full life,” says actor/writer Brett Goldstein about how he approaches writing characters in film and TV.

On today’s episode, we chat with writer/director Will Bridges and writer/actor Brett Goldstein about their new film All of You, starring Imogen Poots and Brett Goldstein. The film centers on two best friends, Laura and Simon, who harbor an unspoken love for one another even after a futuristic test matches one of them up with their supposed soulmate. Though the set-up of the story sounds like science-fiction, the movie stays firmly grounded in reality and examines the human need for love and how we often sabotage that love.

If you’re a fan of the show Black Mirror, you likely know Will Bridges’ Emmy-winning episode “USS Callister,” the only Black Mirror episode to get a sequel. Brett Goldstein is perhaps most famous for playing Roy Kent on Ted Lasso, where he was a writer on the show before acting on it. He talks about his self-taped audition for the show and how taking that one risk changed everything for him.

Bridges and Goldstein talk about working together on an early project where they were forced to bunk in a “spider infested Airbnb,” and they also discuss the nuances of their writing in the film All of You, including why they left out all exposition. “We never wanted to be too specific about where Simon and Laura are in their relationship, but we want to draw you in quickly. We want you playing detective: Where are they now? What's going on with them? So we just trusted the audience would get it,” Bridges says.

They also discuss why you never see Laura or Simon separate from each other. “One of the rules of the film,” says Goldstein, “we only see them when they're together. We don't see their lives when they're apart, and that's kind of fun and interesting to me, that we are watching the film of them. We are not watching the film of what it’s like to be Simon, what's it like to be Laura, we only know what it's like to be them.”

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