The best job is one you love. The second best? One you hate.
Organizational psychologist Alison Fragale learned this the hard way — trading a McKinsey consulting career she couldn't stand for a Stanford PhD and a calling she never would have found otherwise.
A professor at UNC Kenan-Flagler Business School and author of the bestseller Likeable Badass, Fragale grew up in Pittsburgh shaped by a father who made sure his daughter never had to think twice about what she put in the grocery cart. That early imprint on money followed her through Dartmouth, into consulting, and eventually into a career spent studying how people earn power, status, and influence.
She talks with Chris Hill about:
- Why the people most stuck in their careers are neither miserable nor happy — and what to do about it
- A financial concept she didn't encounter until her late thirties that completely changed how she thinks about giving
- Why she bought the car she'd wanted for decades, immediately regretted it, and refuses to get rid of it anyway
- The one habit she believes is both the most generous thing you can do for others AND the most strategic thing you can do for yourself
Check out Alison's book Likeable Badass at alisonfragale.com.
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Opening clip – “Heist”