Host Michele Kawamoto Perry speaks with Daniel Kebede, co-founder of Abstract, in a conversation centered on leadership in complex systems. Together, they explore how reimagining airports requires not only good design but the ability to lead through ambiguity—aligning dozens of stakeholders, creating shared rituals, and using storytelling and empathy to move people toward a common vision.

Daniel reflects on the leadership lessons that shaped him, from mentorship to navigating the unprecedented disruptions brought on by COVID. He offers insights on how to balance innovation with operational constraints, cultivate disciplined processes without stifling creativity, and champion sustainability in an industry known for complexity. The episode closes with a forward-looking take on the kind of leadership required to build a more accessible, human-centered future for air travel. Learn more about Daniel Kebede and Abstract at https://www.abstract.group/

Don't miss an episode! Be sure to click on the follow and subscribe buttons. Follow Expressions of Leadership on YouTube and Instagram. You can also catch the show on Radio Evolve at www.radio-evolve.rocks every Saturday and Sunday at noon PT.

Discover more about host Michele Kawamoto Perry and The Forward Project’s expertise in culture transformation and leadership development at www.theforwardproject.co.