What happens when the hardest season of your life becomes the foundation for your strongest one?

In this deeply honest and reflective conversation, Abbe from Koko Cosmetica returns to the podcast two years after her first appearance, and she is not the same woman. Since we last spoke, she’s navigated postpartum depression, grown her salon to five years strong, welcomed a third baby, survived the FIFO juggle, and stepped into a calmer, more grounded version of herself as both a mother and business owner.

We talk honestly about postpartum mental health, delegation in business, the pressure to keep expanding, sustainable systems, and the uncomfortable truth that growth often requires letting go.

If you are a mother in business, a salon owner feeling stretched, or a woman quietly navigating your own hard season, this one will feel like a hand on your back.

What we cover:

1. The reality of postpartum depression as a business owner
2. Why discomfort is often the birthplace of growth
3. Letting go of a business idea that no longer fits
4. Delegation as both leadership and self protection
5. Creating sustainable systems in motherhood and business
6. The power of separating work and home energy

This episode is a reminder that you can survive the mud, grow through it, and come out clearer, calmer, and stronger on the other side.

Timestamps:

00:00 Episode Summary

04:03 Meet Abbe Again: Five Years in Business, FIFO Life & New Baby

05:44 Putting Projects Down: Pausing the Clothing Brand to Focus

07:43 Choosing Baby #3 After Postpartum Depression Fears

11:31 A Healing Postpartum

13:53 Spotting the Signs: Anger, Overwhelm & Business Pressure

20:37 Sustainable Business Habits: Delegation, Stock & Systems

29:12 Motherhood + Business Balance: Separation, Routines & Small Wins

33:04 Ditching Social Media - Replacing Scroll Time with Podcasts

34:13 The 1% Reminders That Change Your Day

35:18 Family Systems That Save Your Sanity

36:49 Delegation Without Perfection

42:27 Close the Loops: Tackle One Annoying Area to Build Momentum

43:57 Why Uncertainty Is Needed to Level Up

48:06 Seasons of Business

50:33 Putting Projects Down and Staying True to You

55:02 Redefining Success & Legacy

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