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When We Disagree

When We Disagree

By: Michael Lee
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What's a disagreement you can’t get out of your head? When We Disagree highlights the arguments that stuck with us, one story at a time.


© 2026 When We Disagree
Social Sciences
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  • Emotionally Drunk: When Old Wounds Hijack New Connections
    Feb 25 2026

    Angel Grant, co-founder of Death Over Dinner and Drugs Over Dinner, opens up about a rare moment when she broke her own conflict guidelines. A longtime meditation teacher and trauma practitioner influenced by Gabor Maté, Angel describes what it means to be “emotionally drunk," reacting from undigested pain rather than present reality. She explores how old reservoirs of fear, anger, and humiliation hijack our relationships, and why real freedom means expanding our capacity to sit with the sensation before we lash out. In a candid story about defending a loved one during a divorce, Angel wrestles with integrity, self-righteousness, and the seductive power of being the “truth teller.” It’s a vulnerable, rich conversation about body wisdom, detachment, and how to stop repeating the same fight over and over again.

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    33 mins
  • Breaking Bread, Breaking Connection: Dinner Diplomacy and a Sudden Shutdown
    Feb 25 2026

    After a magical day of food, wine, and instant connection with a new friend, Tina Singleton made one political comment that shattered it all. In this candid conversation, the founder of Transformation Table reflects on how a single rant cost her a budding friendship and what it taught her about ego, humility, and the fragility of connection. Inspired by a call from Bernice King after the tragedy at Mother Emanuel AME Church, Tina has spent years bringing strangers together over meals to practice curiosity across difference. This episode is a powerful reminder that building common ground is hard and that sometimes the hardest part is practicing what you preach.

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    30 mins
  • Outrage, Loyalty, and the Price of Power
    Feb 18 2026

    Trey Gowdy, former prosecutor and congressman and current author and host of Sunday Night in America on Fox News, reflects on why the ouster of his friend former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy in 2023 still bothers him and what it reveals about modern politics. McCarthy was the first Speaker to be removed by a "motion to vacate" in US history. Gowdy argues that a small faction of attention-seekers undermined majority rule and rewarded disloyalty over leadership. Gowdy traces how narrow margins and media incentives paved the way for McCarthy’s fall and the rise of his successor, the current Speaker Mike Johnson. Along the way, he contrasts today’s political chaos with the rule-bound fairness of the courtroom. The episode ultimately asks whether Americans will keep rewarding outrage or start incentivizing integrity.

    Tell us your argument stories!

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    22 mins
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