What a $42B Software Co. Really Spends on AI Tools
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About this listen
“I don't worry about being replaced by AI. I worry about being replaced by someone who's really good at using AI.”
Atlassian has 10,000+ engineers currently split-testing the world’s top AI coding tools, from GitHub Copilot and Cursor to Claude Code.
In this episode, Co-Founder & CEO Mike Cannon-Brookes joins Lukas Biewald to share what their data reveals about the world's best AI tools today.
Hear how 24 years of building a tech giant and a massive internal study on AI productivity have shaped Mike's vision for the future of dev jobs.
Connect with us here:
Mike Cannon-Brookes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcannonbrookes/?originalSubdomain=au
Atlassian: https://www.linkedin.com/company/atlassian/?viewAsMember=true
Lukas Biewald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lbiewald/
Weights & Biases: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wandb/
00:00 Trailer
01:08 Introduction
03:11 Connecting Technology and Business Teams
07:22 The Impact of AI on Business Workflows
13:26 Developer Productivity and AI
21:03 Measuring Developer Efficiency
25:41 Future of AI in Development
34:59 Legacy Technology and Code Changes
39:29 AI's Role in Developer Productivity
47:40 AI and Junior Developers
52:30 Product-Led Growth and Business Strategy
01:00:29 Core Metrics for Sustainable Growth
01:06:56 Staying Creative in the Tech Industry