Fifth episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain.

You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s

Film was made by @MichaelEllisFilms

With Jamaica calling on King Charles to support reparations, Kehinde explains what Malcolm would say about the reparatory justice movement today. From the Caribbean Community to the American Descendants of Slavery, reparations are on the agenda, but lacking the radical roots from Malcolm's time. Malcolm famously explained that 'if you stick a knife in my back nine inches, and pull it out 6 inches that is not progress...you have to heal the wound'. Using that yardstick we must understand that the West can never repay the debt, that reparations are revolution.

Plus we share the full interview with Dr Olivia Rutazibwa from the Nobody Can Give You Freedom film

Find out more about Dr Rutazibwa at https://www.lse.ac.uk/sociology/people/academic-staff/olivia-umurerwa-rutazibwa

Find out who sists on the judicial committee on the Privy Council https://jcpc.uk/

Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

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Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews

Produced by Kadiri Andrews

Artwork by Assata Andrews