What Part of You Has Come Here to Die? Recovering a Wild Christianity with Martin Shaw
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What Part of You Has Come Here to Die? Recovering a Wild Christianity with Martin Shaw
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About this listen
It’s a question that Martin Shaw—one of our great living storytellers—is famous for asking.
Shaw offers these kinds of provocations to a Western world where Christianity has largely been domesticated and desperately needs to recover its wildness.
Prayer doesn’t feel real to you?
Rip up a twenty-dollar bill every time you pray.
On your phone too much?
Smash it with a hammer.
Have something you need to confess but are afraid to tell another living soul?
Dig a “confessional hole” in the ground with your bare hands and shout it into the earth.
In this episode of A Commitment to Reality, Shaw joins Dave Hanegraaff to explore how to recover a wild Christianity in a world where faith for many has become cold, abstract, and domesticated.
Thank you for joining A Commitment to Reality, hosted by Dave Hanegraaff. Follow A Commitment to Reality wherever you get your podcasts and on YouTube for full episodes + clips: https://www.youtube.com/@ACommitmenttoReality
(Timestamps below.)
0:00 — Intro / Friends in Common Recovering Wild Christianity
2:20 — Belief is cool again—Atheism is for old people
3:45 — Aesthetic Arrest
6:45 — You don’t want persona, you want presence
8:00 — Make a covenant with limit in a culture of excess
13:55 — Growing up the son of a preacher man
17:15 — The cost of becoming religious
23:05 — What is myth? (And why is it not what we think?)
27:30 — On Sectarian Christianity
30:00 — Theology without practice is the theology of demons
31:35 — Night vigils and reclaiming initiation rites
35:50 — What part of you has come to die?
42:15 — His home burned down—Discussion of losing everything.
45:00 — What is a saint?
46:35 — Death — how can we breathe new life into death?
50:40 — The value of a good cry
53:45 — How to tell our stories differently
56:00 — On your phone too much? Smash it
57:10 — Struggling with prayer? Rip up money when you pray
59:20 — Confessional holes—dig a hole with your hands and confess into the earth
1:00:40 — In a world that feels unreal, what feels real?
1:02:30 — Johnny Cash had a Boy Named Sue. Glen Hansard has a Boy Named Grace: Dave tells the story of naming his son Grace.
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