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When every headline demands a side, what if we started with a question? We sit down as a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist to explore how creation stories frame our deepest assumptions about chaos, order, and the feminine. From Genesis’ hovering spirit over the deep to the Babylonian Enuma Elish’s splitting of Tiamat, we trace how cultures turn raw potential into a livable world—and how those choices shape what we call sacred.

We dig into wisdom literature where Sophia stands at the crossroads, calling out as a feminine presence at creation, and we ask whether later tradition muted that voice. Along the way we unpack Israel’s movement from polytheism around them to henotheism and finally monotheism, probing the famous warning against offerings to the “Queen of Heaven.” Is that a broad rejection of rival cults or a targeted push against feminine divinity? We don’t settle for easy answers. We test each other’s assumptions, connect myth to psychology, and debate whether religion should explain the unknown or protect the space where wonder still breathes.

If you care about theology, mythology, philosophy, or simply how to argue well without losing a friend, this conversation is a map. Expect spirited debate on logos and chaos, thoughtful comparisons of ancient texts, and practical takeaways for making room for mystery in a hyper-rational age. Subscribe, share with someone who sees the world differently than you do, and leave a review telling us: where do you find common ground between order and the unknown?

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