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What About This?

What About This?

By: Jesus Church
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What About This? is a roundtable podcast from Jesus Church. Four pastors. One table. Hard questions on the table. Hosted by Senior Pastor Aaron Executive Pastor Jonathan Youth Pastor Chris Worship Pastor David Each episode tackles parts of the Bible and modern culture that make people uncomfortable, confused, or ready to argue. One pastor plays devil's advocate. The others respond. Nothing is off-limits. We challenge assumptions. We wrestle with Scripture. We talk through real-life tension without dodging it. This podcast is for people who love Jesus and still have questions. If you've ever thought, "Yeah, but what about this?" You're in the right place.Jesus Church Christianity Spirituality
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  • What About These Other Gospels? Part 2
    Feb 27 2026

    Secret knowledge.

    A Manipulated Jesus.

    A hidden truth only a few can access.


    After our Class Is In Session study on the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Judas, the Gospel of Mary, and the rise of Gnosticism, Pastor David hosts Pastors Aaron, Chris, and Jonathan for a deeper conversation.


    Why were these books really written?

    What was happening in the world that made Gnosticism so attractive?

    Why does the idea of “secret revelation” still resonate today?

    And what does any of this have to do with the times we’re living in now?


    In this roundtable discussion:


    • We unpack the cultural pressure facing the early church

    • We explore the real motive behind these alternative gospels

    • We talk about why distortion often feels spiritual

    • One of us pushes the hard questions about canon and authority

    • We connect ancient Gnostic ideas to modern spiritual trends

    • And we wrestle with how these patterns point toward the last days



    The enemy’s strategy hasn’t changed.

    Confuse the truth.

    Redefine Jesus.

    Offer a “deeper” spirituality that subtly undermines the gospel.


    But Scripture warns us this would happen.


    We are closer now than we were yesterday. And discernment matters more than ever.


    If you haven’t listened to the Class Is In Session episode, start there for the historical foundation. Then join us as we ask:


    If secret knowledge keeps resurfacing…

    if false gospels keep multiplying…


    what about these other gospels?

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    59 mins
  • Class Is In Session: Heretical Gospels & The Gnostic Problem
    Feb 26 2026

    What if the “secret” teachings about Jesus were never meant to be secret at all?


    The Gospel of Thomas.

    The Gospel of Judas.

    The Gospel of Mary.


    Hidden knowledge.

    Elite spirituality.

    A False and Manipulated Jesus.


    In this Class Is In Session episode of What About This?, we examine the rise of Gnosticism in the early church and the writings that claimed to offer deeper, secret revelation.


    Why were these books written?

    What made them so dangerous?

    How did they influence the formation of the biblical canon?

    And why do these same ideas keep resurfacing today?


    We talk about:


    • what Gnosticism actually taught (and why it appealed to people)

    • how the so-called “gospels” differ from the four biblical Gospels

    • why secret knowledge contradicts the message of Christ

    • how the early church responded and why canonization mattered

    • how these same spiritual patterns show up in modern culture

    • and how cults still use the same formula to distort truth


    This isn’t about fear.

    It’s about discernment.


    The enemy has always worked through distortion, secrecy, and counterfeit revelation. And the church has always responded with clarity, truth, and the public proclamation of the real gospel.


    There’s nothing hidden about Jesus.


    Class is in session.

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    58 mins
  • What About These Other Books? (Part One)
    Feb 20 2026

    So… what about those "lost books"?

    After releasing our Class Is In Session study on the Apocrypha, the Pseudepigrapha, 1 Enoch, and other ancient writings, the pastors sit down to have the bigger conversation.

    Why do these books fascinate people so much?

    Why do conspiracy theories stick?

    And why does this question keep resurfacing in every generation?

    In this roundtable discussion:

    • We talk about where the confusion around "removed books" actually comes from

    • We unpack why canon matters in the first place

    • We discuss how social media has reshaped this conversation

    • One of us pushes the tough objections people really ask

    • And we wrestle with why this topic can quietly shake people's confidence in Scripture

    This isn't about fear.

    It's not about dismissing ancient writings.

    And it's not about avoiding hard questions.

    It's about clarity.

    If you haven't listened to the Class Is In Session episode yet, start there for the historical and biblical foundation. Then come back and join the conversation as we ask:

    If these books exist…

    if they were read by ancient Jews and Christians…

    if they contain spiritual language…

    what about these other books?

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    1 hr
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