Very Good Is a Long Way from Perfect - Part 3 - Collapse, Inability, and the Logic of the Cross
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Episode 3
In Part 3, we follow the implications of one foundational question:
Did Genesis describe Adam as perfect — or as very good?
We explore how imagining a perfected Adam logically leads to:
- Collapse/Corpse anthropology
- Inability to will salvific good
- Monergistic grace
- Meticulous providence
- The “inevitability instinct”
- Intensified penal substitution
We then contrast this with the Orthodox diagnosis of the Fall as mortality, corruption, and fear of death — not metaphysical annihilation of the will.
It is an examination of premises.
Key Biblical Texts
- Genesis 1:31 — “Very good” (tov me’od)
- Romans 8:7–13 — “Those who are in the flesh cannot please God”
- Hebrews 2:14–15 (KJV) — Fear of death and lifelong bondage
Key Confessional Sources (Western)
Thirty-Nine Articles (1563)
Drafted during the English Reformation under Elizabeth I to define doctrine within the Church of England.
Article IX:
“Original sin… is the fault and corruption of the Nature of every man… whereby man is very far gone from original righteousness…”
Westminster Confession of Faith (1646)
“Man… hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation.”
1689 London Baptist Confession
“Man… hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation.”
Arminian Sources
John Wesley
“By nature every man is dead in sin… void of all power to do good… and has no free will, unless it be to do evil.”
Jacobus Arminius
“In his lapsed and sinful state, man is not capable… to think, to will, or to do that which is really good… unless he be regenerated and renewed by God in Christ.”
Evangelical Language of Inability
Even outside confessional Calvinism, collapse anthropology persists in revival preaching:
Chuck Smith
“Man in his natural state is spiritually dead… incapable of coming to God apart from the work of the Holy Spirit.”
The Logical Chain Examined
Perfect Adam → Catastrophic collapse → Inability to will salvific good → Monergistic grace → Meticulous sovereignty → Inevitability instinct → Wrath-intensified penal substitution
Orthodox Diagnosis
Athanasius of Alexandria
Humanity became “corruptible” and “held fast by the law of death.”
Maximus the Confessor
- Natural will remains.
- Fallen mode of willing becomes distorted.
- Inability is bondage under death, not ontological erasure.
Analogy used in the episode:
The will is like a compass near a magnet — still present, but pulled off course.
Core Question Raised
Does replacing inherited infinite guilt with mortality, corruption, Satan, and fear of death reduce the seriousness of sin?
Or does it reframe it?
“The question is not whether sin is serious. The question is what makes it serious — how it destroys, and why.”
What This Episode Is Not
- Not a denial of sin.
- Not a denial of grace.
- Not a denial of substitution.
- Not an attack on Evangelicals or Catholics.
- Not a rejection of Scripture.
It is an examination of anthropology.