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By: Brandon Spain & Lindsy Waters
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What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.Unrefined LLC Christianity Social Sciences Spirituality
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  • E188 God-Shaped Not Me-Shaped
    Dec 22 2025

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    Brandon and Lindsy sit down with returning guest Anthony Delgado to talk about prayer that actually forms you instead of turning into a spiritual transaction. They unpack why so many believers say “I prayed and it didn’t work,” and how that often reveals we were aiming prayer at the wrong target. Anthony frames the Lord’s Prayer as more than a model or a script it’s a theology of prayer shaped by God, rooted in the Fatherhood of God, and meant to draw us into communion that reshapes desire, identity, and daily life.

    The episode also gets honest about performance-oriented prayer culture, the difference between fervency as trust vs fervency as manipulation, and why starting with adoration changes everything. Along the way they hit liturgy, sacramental imagination, memorialism vs real presence, and practical on-ramps for people who feel distant from God or feel stuck praying only for outcomes.

    The book: God-Shaped Prayer

    https://www.palmdale.church/

    https://www.anthonydelgado.net/

    Podcast: Biblical Re-Enchantment

    https://www.youtube.com/@AnthonyDelgadoBR

    Timestamps:
    00:00:50 Welcome back Anthony Delgado and why this book matters
    00:02:54 Why Anthony wrote God-Shaped Prayer and the church context
    00:05:05 What makes this Lord’s Prayer book different
    00:07:09 Biblical theology angle tracing motifs through Scripture
    00:09:34 Prayer as communion with the Father not fear of praying wrong
    00:12:01 Why “Our Father” hits different for the original audience
    00:14:22 What God-shaped prayer means shaped by God not our rules
    00:16:45 Neo-spiritual “asking the universe” vs Christian prayer
    00:19:07 Starting with nearness our Father before awe and holiness
    00:23:50 Writing a “useful book” something to chew on every page
    00:26:09 The real goal of prayer and the fervency confusion
    00:28:31 Identity first not performance and the father’s lap picture
    00:30:09 What Anthony prayed like before and the ACTS framework
    00:32:30 Why adoration and confession come first then thanksgiving
    00:37:19 Sacramental imagination word and table and worship as formation
    00:42:01 Memorialism vs real presence and obedience as receiving blessing
    00:46:35 Prayer and Eucharistic life as fleeing the giants of the world
    00:58:30 Where to start if you feel distant from God rule of prayer
    01:03:14 Posture and the body in prayer and neural pathways
    01:05:38 Where to find Anthony online and his podcast work
    01:07:59 Workbook announcement and how it’s structured
    01:10:03 Anthony prays the Lord’s Prayer themes over listeners


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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • E187 Talking "Fringe" Without Causing a Family Intervention
    Dec 15 2025

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    Some conversations begin with a whisper… and before you know it, you’re knee-deep in the strange world of fringe theories, spiritual puzzles, and the awkward silence that follows when you bring them up at dinner. In this episode, we lean into the art of talking about the unseen without losing your spouse, your friends, or your social standing. Cohost Jen Parks joins us to break down how to communicate the blurry stuff with wisdom, patience, humor, and a whole lot of relational finesse. We get into cognitive dissonance, defensiveness, spiritual warfare, and why you can’t fire-hose your way into someone’s worldview. From coffee-pot analogies to puzzle-piece theology, this conversation is packed with practical tools for anyone trying to introduce fringe topics to the people they love. It’s part communication workshop, part spiritual formation, and part, “Please don’t think I’m crazy.”

    OHH- and there's a "new guy" (cohost) you get to meet in this one!

    Timestamps:
    00:00:51 Setting up today’s topic: fringe talk without scaring people
    00:02:10 Jen shares what inspired this episode
    00:03:15 Persuasion, winsome speech, and Proverbs 25:11
    00:04:50 Fear, pride, and defensiveness in conversations
    00:05:36 Cognitive dissonance explained
    00:07:20 Intent behind questions and how Jesus handled it
    00:09:45 Asking the Holy Spirit for the right words
    00:10:22 Evangelism through questions
    00:11:45 You’re the coffee pot principle
    00:12:43 Trajectory and small shifts over time
    00:13:50 Insider language and jargon problems
    00:15:05 Relationship before explanation
    00:17:16 Percolator analogy and slow spiritual conversations
    00:18:50 Bigfoot, breadcrumbs, and worldview expansion
    00:19:38 Why fringe topics matter to spiritual formation
    00:22:00 Friendship before being “right”
    00:24:18 Women's approach: you can influence, not control
    00:26:45 Husbands as protectors and guardrails
    00:28:55 Band of Brothers: “salute the rank, not the man”
    00:31:33 Asking questions and listening well
    00:33:47 Fire-hosing vs slow growth
    00:36:07 Early experiences listening to fringe podcasts
    00:38:25 The “all knowledge” paper and circle analogy
    00:40:41 Using secondhand listening at home
    00:42:52 Growth, discernment, and humility
    00:45:17 Requesting reciprocal respect
    00:47:42 Don’t make it hard for someone to change their mind
    00:49:36 Conspiracy pitfalls and being honest about “I don’t know”
    00:52:03 Collecting puzzle pieces and lifelong learning
    00:54:28 The glory of kings to search a matter out
    00:55:43 Closing encouragement and future episode topics


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    57 mins
  • E186 Pagan Panic or Holy Night?
    Dec 8 2025

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    Every December, it feels like the internet dusts off the same “Christmas is pagan” memes and lobs them into everyone’s feeds, and honestly… I’m over it. In this conversation, I sit down with Lindsy and our guest co-navigator Jennifer to ask where these claims actually came from and whether they hold up to real history. We talk about early church evidence for celebrating Jesus’ birth in December, why conception dates mattered in the ancient world, and how sacred time belongs to God—not Saturn, Mithras, or Yuletide spirits. We also unravel Alexander Hislop’s The Two Babylons, Nimrod conspiracies, green man imagery, and the fear that you might be “accidentally” worshiping other gods by putting up a tree. Along the way, we hit on mission, sacred space, and why intent matters more than internet paranoia. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re allowed to enjoy Christmas without guilt, this one’s for you with Dr. Judd Burton.


    https://www.burtonbeyond.net/
    https://drjuddburton.com/

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    Timestamps:
    00:03:16 Is Christmas actually pagan?
    00:05:39 Why celebrating Jesus’ birth matters
    00:07:56 Birth vs conception and sacred timing
    00:10:20 Shepherds, winter flocks, and December
    00:12:42 Saturnalia and Sol Invictus explained
    00:15:08 Constantine myths and Jesus image
    00:17:24 Yuletide, grottos, and reclaiming sites
    00:19:20 St Nicholas, Nicaea, and legend
    00:21:45 Enter Alexander Hislop and Two Babylons
    00:23:59 Nimrod, Apkalū, and pareidolia
    00:26:17 Fear, deception, and trusting God vs the devil
    00:28:33 Magi, astrology, and God using pagan culture
    00:31:00 Christmas trees, Asherah poles, and intent
    00:33:08 Law, grace, and going back under Torah
    00:35:31 Demonic counterfeits and mythic archetypes
    00:37:52 Generational attacks, giants, and cosmic war
    00:40:14 Real danger of anti-Christmas teaching
    00:42:35 Judd’s projects, classes, and Christmas studies


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    46 mins
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