Most agency owners don’t fail because they aren’t working hard.
They fail because they’re building the wrong things at the wrong time.

In this episode, we sit down with Jesse P. Gilmore, founder of Niche Control and creator of the Leverage of Growth Framework, to unpack why so many agency owners get stuck — and how to break through without burning out.

Jesse has coached 500+ agency owners, and in this conversation he shares real, practical insights on:

• Why hustle culture eventually breaks agencies
• The first systems founders must build to scale
• How thinking must change at each revenue stage ($0 → $1M+)
• Why sales clarity beats marketing in the early stages
• When (and who) to hire as your first key team members
• How to build an agency that doesn’t depend entirely on you

This episode is especially valuable for agency owners, consultants, freelancers, and service-based entrepreneurs who feel stuck, overwhelmed, or unsure what to focus on next.

If you want better systems, clearer offers, stronger leverage, and less chaos, this conversation will give you direction you can actually apply.

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House of David: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/House-of-David/0FDRQYNQWZ8H8H1YL6G9P4N0G9The Promised Land: https://www.youtube.com/@ThePromisedLandSeriesPart 1: Dating After 30, Singleness, and Other Questions Answered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac-TrYUD8R4&t=113sPart 2: Dating After 30, Singleness, and Other Questions Answered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Kb6HHPYowThis episode of the "Think on These Things" series discusses deep themes found in Christian media, focusing on the new TV series The House of David and a podcast on singleness and dating after 30 by The Perrys. The hosts draw parallels between King Saul's disobedience, fear of man, and its generational impact on his family, emphasizing the biblical principle that obedience is better than sacrifice. They also delve into the complexities of Christian dating, specifically addressing how to reject someone kindly and clearly without gossiping, using their own intentional dating and marriage experience as a framework for seeking God's wisdom in every stage of a relationship.Key Discussion Points1. The House of David and the story of Saul’s disobedience.2. Saul's fear of the people versus David's desire for God's Spirit.3. The principle: Obedience is better than sacrifice.4. How Saul's sin impacted his son, Jonathan, and daughter, Michal.5. The importance of seeking God to clean up toxic generational patterns.6. Podcast on singleness, dating, and rejection (The Perrys with Jackie Hill Perry).Timestamp,Title00:00 - Intro: God, Take Everything Except This02:11 - The House of David TV Series on Amazon Prime 03:58 - Saul's Disobedience: Obedience is Better than Sacrifice 06:00 - Saul's Fear of People vs. God's Wrath 07:12 - Saul's Pride and Protecting His Image as King 08:43 - Saul's Problem with Identity (Hiding to King) 10:26 - Saul vs. David's Repentance 12:46 - Saul's Sin Affected Jonathan and Michal 15:57 - Michal's Rebuking of David: Learned from Family 16:32 - Cleaning Up Toxic Generational Things 22:15 - Podcast: Dating After 30 / Singleness (The Perrys) 23:21 - Rejecting Someone: Being Clear and Kind 27:28 - Nice vs. Kind: Be Straightforward in Rejection 41:24 - Conclusion: Seek God First for the Best Solution

In this episode of Think On These Things, we dive deep into the powerful conversation between Cam Newton and Jason Wilson regarding manhood, vulnerability, and the misconceptions of strength. We explore why men often mask their emotions with anger, the fine line between God's grace and willful sin, and how our childhood upbringing shapes our relationship with God and others. Join us as we unpack the importance of listening to understand rather than just to reply, and why it is biblically okay to feel sadness and seek comfort.

Keypoints discussed:

- Healthy Disagreement: How to have respectful conversations and "reset" when tensions rise.

- Grace vs. Abuse: Understanding the difference between falling into sin and abusing God's grace.

- Emotional Intelligence: Why anger is often a cover for fear and how to express emotions healthily.

- Parenting & Faith: The balance of gentle parenting and how we view authority figures in the church.

- Biblical Vulnerability: Examining how King David and Jesus expressed deep emotions without losing their strength.

00:00 - Intro : The Art of Listening

2:42 - Reviewing Cam & Jason

04:36 - Listen to Understand

05:35 - The Power of "Reset"

11:03 - Abusing God's Grace

15:42 - Surroundings Affect Faith

17:47 - Blind Trust in Elders

19:11 - Gentle Parenting Balance

23:24 - The Bearded Girl Story

26:42 - Zachariah vs Mary

34:37 - Anger vs Real Emotion

40:16 - Toxic "Be A Man" Culture

44:54 - God Comforts the Sad

55:00 - Conclusion: It's Okay to Feel

Cam & Jason Wilson on Manhood, Faith, and Overcoming Temptation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MIDFm1mGZI&t=1s