In this episode, Mary Conquest speaks with Adam Johns, a risk consultant with Marsh (the global insurance broker), who brings extensive experience from aviation and rail, where he strengthened systems and cultures in safety-critical environments.

Are safety practitioners learning enough from other industries, or are they generally operating within their own sector’s traditional boundaries?

Adam explores how the profession could improve by looking beyond their own industries, including using the underutilized lever of insurance.

He shares many practical approaches to enhancing workplace safety, including: prioritizing the safety of work over safety work, creating just cultures, using language that encourages curiosity rather than judgement, and rethinking the measurement of safety.

This generous and valuable conversation even finishes with Adam sharing an underutilized gift EHS professionals could potentially access to significantly increase their ability to keep workers safe.

Online resources recommended by Adam:

Safety and Risk Management | Energy Institute

Aviation Safety Experts - Flight Safety Foundation

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Books that Adam recommends:

Team of Teams: New Rules of Engagement for a Complex World: Amazon.com: McChrystal, General Stanley, Silverman, David, Collins, Tantum, Fussell, Chris

Friendly Fire – The Accidental Shootdown of U.S. Black Hawks over Northern Iraq: Amazon.com: Snook, Scott A.

Adam Johns on LinkedIn: Adam Johns | LinkedIn

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