This video continues the Heal NPD Seminar Series, featuring Dr. Mark Ettensohn with his associates, Deanna Young, Psy.D., and Danté Spencer, M.A.

In this session, the group discusses Empathy and Narcissistic Personality Disorder: From Clinical and Empirical Perspectives (2014), examining the long-standing assumption that narcissistic personality disorder is defined by a lack of empathy. Drawing on the article’s review of empirical findings and clinical case material, the conversation explores empathy as a multidimensional and context-dependent capacity rather than a fixed trait.

Key themes include the distinction between emotional and cognitive empathy, the variability of empathic functioning across grandiose and vulnerable narcissistic states, and the ways shame, threat, and affective overload can disrupt empathic engagement in intimate relationships. The discussion highlights how empathy may appear intact or even robust in some contexts, while collapsing in situations that feel most emotionally consequential.

This video continues the Heal NPD Seminar Series, featuring Dr. Mark Ettensohn with his associates, Deanna Young, Psy.D., and Danté Spencer, M.A. In this session, the group discusses Empathy and Narcissistic Personality Disorder: From Clinical and Empirical Perspectives (2014), examining the long-standing assumption that narcissistic personality disorder is defined by a lack of empathy. Drawing on the article’s review of empirical findings and clinical case material, the conversation explores empathy as a multidimensional and context-dependent capacity rather than a fixed trait. Key themes include the distinction between emotional and cognitive empathy, the variability of empathic functioning across grandiose and vulnerable narcissistic states, and the ways shame, threat, and affective overload can disrupt empathic engagement in intimate relationships. The discussion highlights how empathy may appear intact or even robust in some contexts, while collapsing in situations that feel most emotionally consequential. The seminar also addresses common misunderstandings of neuroimaging findings related to empathy, emphasizing the limits of biological reductionism and the importance of viewing brain-based data as correlates of experience rather than determinants of destiny. Throughout, the group reflects on clinical implications for treatment, including the differentiation between motivation-based and deficit-based empathic disengagement, the role of affect tolerance and reflective capacity, and the relational conditions that support the gradual restoration of empathic availability.

This series is intended for clinicians, trainees, and others interested in a nuanced, non-moralizing understanding of narcissistic personality disorder, empathy, and psychological development.

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Citation for the article discussed: Baskin-Sommers A, Krusemark E, Ronningstam E. Empathy in narcissistic personality disorder: from clinical and empirical perspectives. Personal Disord. 2014 Jul;5(3):323-33. doi: 10.1037/per0000061. Epub 2014 Feb 10. PMID: 24512457; PMCID: PMC4415495.

Full text link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4415495/