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Two PreSales in a Pod

Two PreSales in a Pod

By: Adam Freeman
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PreSales podcast hosted by Adam Freeman and Todd Janzen. We discuss the burning issues facing the PreSales world in a relaxed and conversational style. The world can get pretty serious, so join us with for a casual chat on all things PreSales. Listen to the podcast on your preferred platform with episodes posted regularly.Adam Freeman Economics
Episodes
  • Episode 83 - Burn the Deck: How Presales Wins When Buyers Have AI Superpowers
    Feb 16 2026

    Buyers aren’t showing up to your first call “curious” anymore, they’re showing up pre-researched, pre-ranked, and powered by AI.

    In this episode, we’re joined by John Brunswick (former Distinguished SE at Salesforce, founder of StoryPath.ai, and author of Burn the Deck) to break down what AI is changing in the buyer/seller dynamic.

    We dig into:

    • Why AI gives buyers “superpowers” (and what that means for your first meeting)
    • Why traditional product demos can feel like the worst first date ever
    • How story becomes the envelope for your value, and helps you regain control
    • Practical ways to add framing, “from/to” summaries, and pallet-cleansing medium shifts to keep buyers engaged

    If you want your next discovery + demo to actually earn the second meeting, this one’s a must.

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    51 mins
  • Episode 82 - The Rise of Forward Deployed Engineers with James Kaikis
    Dec 18 2025

    In this episode, James Kaikis (Co-Founder, PreSales Collective; Founder, GTM Shift) joins Adam + Todd to unpack the rise of Forward Deployed Engineers (FDEs) and what it signals for the future of presales: a world where proof beats polish, and the teams that win are the ones who can show it working—fast.

    We get into:

    • What an FDE actually is (and why it’s not as “new” as it sounds)

    • The real driver behind the trend: the burden of proof and collapsing trust

    • Why the “harbor cruise” demo needs an upgrade

    • How AI is accelerating skepticism (and why “see it to believe it” is the new default)

    • A practical approach for leaders: start with jobs-to-be-done + small experiments, not a massive org redesign

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    47 mins
  • Episode 81 - How to stand out in a shifting presales job market
    Apr 15 2025

    The presales job market is evolving—leadership roles are competitive, and entry-level SE opportunities are tighter than ever. But there’s good news: hiring is picking up again. So… how do you stand out and land your next role?

    We’re joined by Yuji Higashi, Co-Founder of PreSales Collective and Better Career, to break down:

    • The current state of the presales hiring landscape
    • Why first-time SE roles are harder to land—and what to do about it
    • How to differentiate yourself and make the move you’ve been waiting for

    Whether you're actively job hunting or just keeping your eye on the market, this episode is packed with real talk, success stories, and tactical advice.

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    45 mins
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