Episodes

  • D&C 98-101 with Sonny Makasini

    D&C 98-101 with Sonny Makasini
    Sep 8 2025
    BYU offensive lineman Sonny Makasini joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to discuss Doctrine and Covenants sections 98-101. Before diving into the doctrine of Christ in these sections, the trio discuss the goods and bads of the bowl games they’ve attended. Sonny then shares a spiritually enriching experience of how everything works out for people when they keep the commandments. The discussion then turns to the nature of trials—those that stem from personal choices, the actions of others, and the inherent challenges of mortality. Connor and Sonny recount moments on the football field when they faced adversity despite doing everything right—illustrating how trials often come even in the midst of faithfulness. Chase admits he doesn’t enjoy trials but expresses hope that he’ll appreciate them more in the future, especially when he eventually sees Jesus Christ face to face.
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    49 mins
  • D&C 94-97 with Trey Roberts

    D&C 94-97 with Trey Roberts
    Sep 1 2025
    Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome recently returned missionary and BYU wide receiver Trey Roberts. He also happens to be Chase's brother. The trio dive into a meaningful conversation about the seven promises made in temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They then explore the theme of loving correction, both from God and within the BYU Football team.The episode wraps up with a discussion on the spiritual strength that comes from keeping commandments.
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    46 mins
  • D&C 93 with Spencer Linton

    D&C 93 with Spencer Linton
    Aug 25 2025
    BYU Sports Nation’s Spencer Linton joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to discuss Doctrine and Covenants 93. Spencer shares that this section of the Doctrine and Covenants is all about consistency and how part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is all about “showing up.” Connor adds that true discipleship means doing what’s right—even when it’s hard or inconvenient—demonstrating a steady testimony through action. Chase shares how the BYU Football team’s “faith walk” led players to reflect on Jesus Christ and how the Savior is the light we should seek. The trio then explores the concept of Jesus learning “grace for grace” before receiving the fullness of God, drawing a parallel to our own spiritual journey.
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • D&C 89-92 with Kenny Cox

    D&C 89-92 with Kenny Cox
    Aug 18 2025
    BYU Director of Football Media Relations & Communications Kenny Cox joins Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for a meaningful discussion centered on Doctrine and Covenants 89–92. Kenny shares insights into his role with the football team, explaining how he helps media professionals understand the unique spirit and culture of BYU and Cougar Football. The conversation then shifts to the principles of healthy living found in the Word of Wisdom. Chase reflects on the “principle with a promise,” sharing a personal story about his grandfather, who gave up drinking beer at the request of his aunt—an act that brought lasting blessings. Kenny opens up about his own health journey, describing how he transformed his life through mindful eating and moderation. Connor emphasizes the vital role of the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in guiding Church administration.
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    59 mins
  • D&C 88 with BYU Football's Austin Leausa

    D&C 88 with BYU Football's Austin Leausa
    Aug 11 2025
    BYU Football offensive lineman Austin Leausa joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay on the latest episode of the Two Point Conversion podcast. Together, the trio explores Doctrine and Covenants Section 88, reflecting on moments when they’ve each felt the presence of “another Comforter” in their lives. Austin shares a deeply personal story about the birth of his second daughter, and how it brought him closer to his wife, his Savior, and helped him return to college football. Chase opens up about how football itself has served as a second comforter, and how Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have helped him through the struggles with his game. The conversation then turns to the idea of God as a divine physician—one who patiently works with each of us until we are spiritually healed. Connor then shares a special message from Elder Ronald A. Rasband to the football team.
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    51 mins
  • D&C 85-87 with Greg Wrubell

    D&C 85-87 with Greg Wrubell
    Aug 4 2025
    The Voice of the Cougars, Greg Wrubell, joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay on this episode of the Two Point Conversion podcast. Greg shares his journey from Canada to BYU and how he became the broadcaster for Cougar sports. The trio explores how The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints offers a wealth of resources to help individuals draw closer to Christ. They discuss practical ways to document life’s meaningful moments—whether through social media, voice memos, or journaling—and reflect on what it means to be a “lawful heir” of God and to stand in holy places in today’s world.
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    52 mins
  • D&C 84 with Hans Olsen

    D&C 84 with Hans Olsen
    Jul 28 2025
    Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome former BYU Football standout and Cougar Sports Network analyst Hans Olsen to the podcast. Hans shares his journey to BYU, his experiences in professional football, and how he transitioned into a career as a radio analyst. The conversation takes a personal turn as they discuss Connor’s upcoming wedding. The trio also dives into a heartfelt discussion about missionary service for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, sparked by Hans’ interest in his son’s current mission in New Mexico. They reflect on the importance of studying the words of eternal life and being spiritually prepared to speak as God would have them speak. The trio also reflects on the trials faced by early Saints in Kirtland and the enduring faith that helped them press forward.
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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • D&C 81-83 with guest co-host Tanner Wall

    D&C 81-83 with guest co-host Tanner Wall
    Jul 21 2025
    BYU Football safety Tanner Wall joins the podcast again, this time as a co-host. He and Connor Pay discuss the latest happenings in BYU Football's summer drills along with Connor's recent engagement to Mallory Binns. The duo also dives into this week’s "Come, Follow Me" study, exploring powerful gospel themes like the importance of forgiving others, the higher standard expected of God’s leaders, and the unwavering nature of God’s promises.
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    57 mins