Episodes

  • EEpisode 77 – When Your Son Wears the Uniform: A Mother’s Perspective
    Jul 4 2025

    In this episode, the Two Ordinary Cops sit down with a very special guest—Schultzy’s mum, Liz. From guarding evidence in the red dirt of the Northern Territory to cooking meals for specialist squads, Liz shares what it’s really like watching your son step into a uniform and face the realities of policing.

    She opens up about the pride, the sleepless nights, and the unforgettable moments that come with being part of the extended police family. If you’ve ever wondered what goes on behind the scenes—or how it feels for the people who love those on the front line—this one’s for you.

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Episode 76 – From PTSD to Purpose: Nick White’s Mission to Save First Responders
    Jun 27 2025

    In this powerful episode, we sit down with former paratrooper and NSW police officer Nick White. From high-risk military service to frontline policing in some of the toughest parts of Sydney, Nick opens up about the trauma that nearly broke him — including the heartbreaking moment he tried to save a one-week-old baby.

    Diagnosed with PTSD after years of cumulative trauma, Nick speaks candidly about his decline, the turning point, and how EMDR therapy helped him begin to rebuild. But he didn’t stop there.

    Now the founder of Bellator Fortitudinem, a nationwide peer support network for first responders, Nick is on a mission to change the way we support those who run towards danger while everyone else runs away. This episode covers everything from frontline mental health, the cracks in the system, funding challenges, and the app he’s building to save lives before it's too late.

    If you're in the job, been in the job, or care about someone who is — this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

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    1 hr and 40 mins
  • Episode 75 – From Rookie Mistake to Tactical Expertise in an Interview with Ben Hosking
    Jun 20 2025

    The Two Ordinary Cops sit down with Ben Hosking — a former frontline cop turned tactical operator — for one of our rawest chats yet. Thrown into chaos straight out of the academy, Hosko faced riots, a taser mishap, and the harsh reality of policing in Tennant Creek. Years later, he was forced to shoot an armed offender. From high-risk incidents to elite policing and the lasting mental toll, this is a story that hits hard and stays with you.

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    2 hrs and 18 mins
  • Episode 74 – “Pepper Spray, Protesters and the Porn Channel Surprise”
    Jun 13 2025

    In Episode 74, the Two Ordinary Cops cover everything from snow in Hernani to sex dungeons in Kununurra. Damo and Schultzy reflect on the Northern Territory's move to legalise capsicum spray for civilians—and debate whether it’s empowering the public or arming the crooks. They also tackle the hot-button issue of deaths in custody, offering a frontline insight into investigative transparency that rarely makes the headlines. And if that wasn’t enough, they share their wildest search warrant story yet—complete with drug busts, gay porn on the telly, and a house full of adult toys. It's raw, unfiltered, and exactly what you'd expect when the boys start digging through the evidence drawer of humanity.

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    52 mins
  • Episode 73 – The Bobby Principle: Why Respect for Police Rises—and Falls:
    Jun 6 2025

    In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy dive into the complex topic of public respect for police — where it comes from, how it can be lost in a heartbeat, and what it really takes to earn it back. From crowd control at footy games to walking the beat in remote communities, they explore the idea of "The Bobby Principle” — that being visible, present and genuinely engaged with your community is what earns lasting respect. They also chat about frontline fatigue, shout out a few old mates still on the tools, and reflect on how over-policing at events can help... or hurt. It's a candid, thoughtful look at policing through the eyes of those who’ve lived it.

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    42 mins
  • Episode 72 – Overseas Recruits, Overtime & the Price of a Carton
    May 30 2025

    In Episode 72 – Overseas Recruits, Overtime & the Price of a Carton, the Two Ordinary Cops dive into the real cost of life in the blue. From breaking down how junior cops can crack six figures (if they're willing to sacrifice sleep), to the unofficial rules of “cartonable offences” and kangaroo courts, Damo and Schultzy mix laughs with hard truths. They also answer questions from a would-be recruit and give a shoutout to UK coppers considering the move Down Under—reminding us that when the lights go on and the job kicks off, it doesn’t matter where you’re from. You’re part of the team.

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    41 mins
  • Episode 71 – Boot Camps, Broken Systems, and Blokes Like Mickey
    May 23 2025

    In this episode of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy dive deep into the tough conversations — from viral post turtle banter to the devastating reality behind police suicide and youth crime in the Territory.

    Damo reflects on the tragic loss of his mate, Mickey D — a true legend of the Northern Territory Police — and what made him so special. They unpack what worked in the past for youth justice, the decline of community authority, and whether boot camps could actually help, or if some kids are just too far gone.

    It’s raw, honest, and full of insight from two coppers who’ve seen it all — from ironed uniforms to iron wills tested.

    If you care about policing, community, and doing better — this one’s worth a listen.

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    47 mins
  • Episode 70 – From Connie to Commander: Inside the Police Rank Structure.
    May 16 2025

    In Episode 70 of Two Ordinary Cops, Damo and Schultzy break down the police rank structure from the ground up – starting with the everyday duties of a constable all the way to the strategic decisions made at commissioner level. They reflect on their own journeys, share experiences of leading in remote stations, and dive into what it really takes to earn (or sometimes fail at) promotion. With honest banter, practical insight, and a few laughs, they explore the challenges of leadership, the difference between acting and substantive ranks, and why some officers are better suited to certain roles than others. Whether you're in the job or just curious about how police command works, this episode offers a raw and relatable look inside the structure that holds it all together.

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    1 hr and 5 mins