In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, hosts Carrie Cantwell and Toni Federico are joined by Kay Wolfersperger to tackle a hard truth about making a living in surface design: one income stream just isn’t enough. If you’ve been told that licensing your art will pay all your bills, they’re here to set the record straight—with plenty of cranky real talk.

They dive into why relying solely on licensing is the exception, not the rule, how multiple income streams are a necessity (not a failure), and the best ways to diversify without losing your sanity. Whether you're freelancing, teaching, selling products, or building passive income, they break down the ways creatives can actually make a living—without burning out.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:

• How art licensing alone won’t pay all your bills (and that’s normal).
• The reality of balancing multiple revenue streams without losing your mind.
• Why having multiple streams isn’t a failure—it’s smart business.

If you’ve ever felt stressed about where your next paycheck is coming from, this episode will help you feel seen, empowered, and maybe even a little less cranky.

Notable Mentions

Shannon McNab’s Surface Industry Survey

Harvest.com

Kay’s Playlist
Flow Beats on Spotify

Kay Wolfersperger …

Kay Wolfesperger is a creative lighting bolt based out of Savannah, GA, USA. She funnels her boundless energy into her illustrations to create unique and compelling solutions for her clients such as Editions Auzou, Creative Bug, American Greetings and Design House Greetings. Her colorful and lively work often explores humor and positivity and her mixed race background provides invaluable insight and appreciation for diverse points of view and a penchant for empathy. Wolfersperger loves the convenience and speed of working digitally but embraces the wobbly lines in her work that reflect the mastery of her craft and humanness in her process. She balances her robust creative entrepreneurship with running, lifting heavy and traveling.

Two Cranky Creatives …

Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.

In this episode of Two Cranky Creatives, the Cranks are joined by Ana Bianchi—a designer, artist, and color whisperer who says hell no to playing it safe with your palette. Together, they dive deep into the wild world of color: how to find your unique color voice, why signature palettes can sometimes box you in, and what magic happens when you step off the color wheel and into the unknown.

If you’ve ever felt stuck in a rut of “what works,” or afraid to experiment because, gasp, it might clash, this episode is your personal permission slip to go bold, go weird, and make your color choices unapologetically you.

Ana Bianchi …
Originally from Mexico, Ana Bianchi is an artist, designer, illustrator, and twice-published children’s book author/illustrator. With degrees in both graphic design and fine arts, her 35+ years of creative work span disciplines ranging from printmaking and ceramics to illustration, surface design, and children's wear to graphic design and branding for clients, small and big, from local restaurants to major airlines.

Her lifelong love of color is what connects it all and helps her comfortably move from one discipline to another and from one technique to another. Her book Color Curious (Chronicle Books) illustrates her ideas and inspiration around a variety of color themes, combining essays with her photography, illustrations, and more, and as you read her texts, you will discover her deep interest in art history, world cultures, and the pursuit of creative ideas through the common thread of color.

When not working in her Bay Area studio, Ana loves to cook and bake colorful things, tend to her garden -her other color studio- and spend time with her tiny family and dogs.

Color Curious Substack

AnaLovesColor.com
@analovescolor

Her book Color Curious is now available for preorder at Chronicle Books, Amazon, Bookshop.org, Barnes&Noble, and Target

Shipping on September 30th.

Two Cranky Creatives …
Two Cranky Creatives is hosted by Carrie Cantwell & Toni Federico, two seasoned art entrepreneurs who pull back the curtain on the highs and lows of making a living as a creative. Expect unfiltered, real talk about the challenges, victories, and everything in between that comes with navigating the art world as a business. Whether you're a fellow creative or just curious about the hustle, join us every other week for candid conversations that go beyond the usual sugar-coated advice.