What if God is inviting us into something far bigger than we imagined?

In this end-of-year conversation, hosts Robbie Angle and Benjamin Crawshaw look back on a transformative season for Trueface and share the unexpected ways God has redirected our steps. We reflect on 30 years of ministry, the beauty of generational trust from our founders, and the launch of The Path—a fresh articulation of grace designed to help all of us experience Jesus in a more deeply relational way.

We also open up about the “holy interruption” that shifted our plans for 2025 and beyond. Through ambassador trainings, pastor gatherings, and surprising moments of clarity, we sensed God calling us to serve the capital-C Church with greater boldness—dreaming about equipping 10,000 churches with a thriving culture of discipleship.

In this family-style episode, we share how God is shaping our vision, what we’re learning about dependence and courage, where your partnership matters most, and why we’re more hopeful than ever about what God is doing in His Church.

If you’re part of the Trueface tribe—whether you pray, give, serve, or simply listen—this one is for you. Merry Christmas, and we can’t wait for what’s ahead.

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What if we’ve been measuring spiritual growth by all the wrong metrics?

In this episode, we sit down with our friend and teammate Benjamin Crawshaw to explore why so many of us feel stuck or discouraged in our discipleship journey—and why churches often feel the same. Together, we unpack the heart of Trueface’s “outcomes of spiritual growth” framework and ask the deeper questions: What are we actually aiming for? How do we know if discipleship is working? And why does love—not knowledge, effort, or productivity—always reveal true maturity?

We reflect on our own stories, the pastors we’ve met, and the countless conversations that led us to a simple but disruptive conviction: discipleship is the process of growing in love of God and others. From understanding our view of God, to maturing in authentic relationships, to overflowing love into the world—this episode invites us to breathe, slow down, and step into the long, patient work of becoming whole disciples.

If you’ve ever felt behind, confused, or weighed down by the pressure to “get discipleship right,” this conversation will give you hope, clarity, and a fresh vision of the life Jesus makes possible.

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What happens when decades of leadership, loss, grace, and growth collide into a life lived fully alive?

In this episode, we sit down with our friend Wayne Williams—entrepreneur, rancher, long-time Trueface partner, and a man who has walked with Jesus through both mountaintops and valleys.

We explore Wayne’s journey from leading a global company through the dot-com boom and bust, to discovering a deeper identity shaped not by performance but by grace. We talk about how mentors changed the trajectory of his faith, why “protection teams” are essential for spiritual formation, and what it really looks like to build friendships rooted in vulnerability.

Together, we unpack wisdom for every season—launching into adulthood, navigating marriage, raising kids, stewarding work, and learning to let go with trust. Wayne’s honest reflections invite us to slow down, listen, and live with the kind of intentionality that forms us into who God says we are.

If you’re hungry for clarity, encouragement, and a practical vision for a grace-centered life, this conversation will feel like sitting with a trusted guide who’s a few steps ahead of us on the trail.

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What if the hardest thing about following Jesus isn’t doing more—but learning to receive?

In this episode, we sit down with author David Gregory to explore the mystery of grace and what it really means to live out of our union with Christ. David shares his journey from striving to be a “good Christian” to discovering the freedom of Christ living through him. Together, we unpack why receiving God’s love can feel harder than earning it, how pride and control block our ability to trust, and why childlike faith is at the heart of the gospel.

We also dive into how this message could transform the church today and the beauty of walking by faith instead of performance.

If you’ve ever wondered why grace feels simple—but not easy—this conversation will meet you right where you are.

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What if true discipleship means going deeper, not wider?

In this conversation with our friend Brian Mosley, president of RightNow Media, we explore what it looks like to lead, steward, and discern with courage in seasons of transition. From his family’s three-generation journey of ministry to his bold shift from DVDs to streaming, Brian shares how God’s guidance often comes through the “messy middle.” Together, we talk about trusting God one day at a time, partnering to serve the Church, and helping leaders build thriving cultures of discipleship. This episode invites us to slow down, listen for God’s direction, and faithfully pursue depth over breadth in our leadership and relationships.

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Why do we get stuck in the same struggles year after year—even as Christians longing for freedom? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Marcus Warner, president of Deeper Walk International, to unpack why so many of us stall out in our spiritual growth and how we can move toward real breakthrough. Together, we explore the “five engines” that drive our emotions and shape our transformation—our bodies, beliefs, bonds, the Holy Spirit, and spiritual warfare. With Marcus’ wisdom and practical insight, we learn how to replace fear with joy, uncover the lies we’ve believed, and embrace a deeper, more relational walk with God. If you’ve ever wondered why your growth feels stalled or how to move past long-standing struggles, this conversation offers hope, clarity, and a fresh path forward.

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What does it really mean to live in the “easy yoke” of Jesus?

In this conversation with our friends Bill and Kristi Gaultiere, we explore how empathy, grace, and slow faithfulness transform our everyday walk with God. Together, we unpack their decades of counseling, ministry, and personal growth—learning what it looks like to move through walls in our faith, practice self-empathy, and reflect God’s love in our relationships. From the practical “four A’s of empathy” to the hope of God meeting us right where we are, this episode invites us to discover how deeply loved we truly are.

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What if the most important leadership lessons aren’t learned on a stage, but in the wilderness, through pruning, weakness, and limitation? In this conversation with Lindy Black, we explore how God shapes leaders from the inside out. With decades of experience in the Navigators and Trueface, Lindy shares her own journey of discovering her gifting, receiving healing, and learning to lead with honesty, courage, and a God-focused life. Together, we reflect on the unseen formation that prepares us to serve others well, and how vulnerability and humility unlock true influence.

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