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The Twenty One Clear Podcast

The Twenty One Clear Podcast

By: Adam Hatcher
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The benefits of working with family include mutual trust, a shared long-term outlook, and quick decision making. However, your inner family business relationships can also cause chaos for the company and family. What can you do? Join us as we explore chaos proofing your family business so you can build a great company with a strong family around it. 21clear.com© 2025 Twenty One Clear Economics
Episodes
  • My Experience Joining the Family Company
    Nov 20 2025

    In this episode, Adam Hatcher reflects on his own journey of joining the family business and the realities that come with stepping into a company run by relatives.

    Featuring a conversation with Andrea Carpenter, president of Transition Strategists and host of Your Next Gen Friend podcast, the discussion unpacks firsthand stories about generational expectations, mixing family ties with company roles, and the challenges of growing into leadership.

    Listeners will gain honest perspectives on navigating tension, building independence, and chaos-proofing the family business from someone who has lived it. If you’re considering bringing family into your organization—or are part of one already—this episode brings practical insight for every stage of the journey.

    Links for Andrea Carpenter

    • Website: https://transitionstrategists.com/
    • Your Next Gen Friend Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/your-next-gen-friend-a-successors-guide-to-business/id1821493103
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreashaver
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yournextgenfriend/


    21C Links

    • Twenty One Clear website: www.21clear.com
    • Adam Hatcher on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/adamhatcher
    • Subscribe to the Twenty One Clear newsletter: https://21clear.substack.com/
    • Subscribe to the podcast and listen to the previous three episodes that this episode builds upon: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-one-clear-podcast/id1811403547


    Bumper Music
    Still Hot
    by Nic D, Connor Price
    (c) Lossless, 2023

    Episode Produced By
    https://snapmarket.co

    Chapters
    (00:00) Reflecting on Joining the Family Business
    (02:56) Advice from Other Family Business Leaders
    (06:30) Value of Independent Experience
    (11:05) Generational Stories and Building on the Past
    (15:15) Navigating Authority and Tension in Leadership
    (20:00) Mixing Family and Business Dynamics
    (27:00) Honest Conversations and Growth Decisions

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    25 mins
  • Chaos Proof Your Family Hiring - Part 2
    Sep 25 2025

    In this episode of The Twenty One Clear Podcast, Adam Hatcher takes us into Part 2 of Chaos Proofing Your Family Hiring by focusing on the essential and highly practical steps required for chaos-proofing the hiring of family members in a family business.

    Drawing on real-world stories and experiences, Adam explores how to set clear hiring criteria, including matching family to actual jobs, and the risks involved in joining the family company.

    He also shares practical strategies for onboarding new family employees and highlights the importance of addressing these issues before the next challenge hits.

    If you want to grow your company and keep your family strong, this episode delivers experienced guidance you can put to work right away.

    21C Links

    • Twenty One Clear website - https://21clear.com
    • Adam Hatcher on LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/adamhatcher
    • Subscribe to the Twenty One Clear newsletter - https://21clear.substack.com/


    Bumper Music
    Still Hot
    by Nic D, Connor Price
    (c) Lossless, 2023

    Episode Produced By
    https://snapmarket.co

    Chapters
    (00:00) Recap of Chaos Proof Hiring Framework
    (03:15) Matching Family Members to Actual Jobs
    (09:18) Risks of Joining the Family Business
    (15:08) Vigorously Onboarding Family Employees
    (26:10) Early Preparation and Family Meetings

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    23 mins
  • Chaos Proof Your Family Hiring - Part 1
    Aug 29 2025

    In this episode of The Twenty One Clear Podcast, Adam Hatcher tackles the complexities of hiring in a family business and reveals what it takes to chaos proof your approach.

    Through real-life stories—both painful and instructive—Adam examines how the absence of intentional hiring criteria can fracture both a company and the family at its core.

    Listeners will walk away with a practical framework for developing family hiring standards that go beyond job skills, addressing education, experience, and cultural fit.

    If hiring and navigating family relationships in business feels risky or unclear, this conversation brings hard-won clarity and actionable guidance.

    21C Links

    • Twenty One Clear website: https://www.21clear.com
    • Adam Hatcher on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamhatcher
    • Subscribe to the Twenty One Clear newsletter: https://21clear.substack.com/


    Bumper Music
    Still Hot
    by Nic D, Connor Price
    (c) Lossless, 2023

    Episode Produced By
    https://snapmarket.co

    Chapters
    (00:00) The Cost of Family Hiring Gone Wrong
    (03:00) Why Most Family Companies Lack Hiring Criteria
    (07:45) Four Steps to Chaos Proofing Family Hiring
    (09:00) Establishing Family Hiring Criteria
    (17:45) The Value of Experience and Education Outside the Business
    (23:00) The Inner Family Business and Its Impact

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    19 mins
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